Why do people insinuate that fanservice was only really a thing in anime in the 2000s and 2010s? I've been watching older anime for the past 6 months now, and it doesn't really seem any less sexualized to me if I were to be honest. They are plenty of times were a character is dressed proactively, a camera-shot is basically pointed at some boobs or enhancing someone's figure.
In fact, I'd say it can be even more explicit since they were often uncensored more than modern stuff.
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Anime was just as sexual if not more sexual in the past. The only difference is that post digital, visual details improved.
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Who said that exactly? I'm a fan of old material and I can confirm there was shitons of fanservice especially on unpopular stuff like OVA.
what show?
>Who said that exactly?
Ignorant people who got into anime post 2000. It was very common on early Zig Forums and the internet at large for people to complain about shows like Love Hina and Mahoromatic making anime focused on fanservice. This was also the time when the term fanservice was corrupted.
The pic? Key the Metal Idol, it's an OVA series, it's not very well executed but has some nice experimental visuals and plot. The best thing about is probably the opening: m.youtube.com
Fanservice as we know it really came into fruition in the 80’s.
panty shots were even more prominant then than now
70s*
Ecchi fanservice/sexualization peaked in quantity (proportionate to the amount of anime being made) in the 1990s.
i reached the same conclusions.
but personally i think older anime were wayyyy more sexualized than today, you could see BDSM, rape, incest, cum or naked tits all the time and sometimes even on shows made for a younger audience.
same goes for manga, i mean even Ranma 1/2 has tits all the time and attempted rape.
Bastard! has rape and nudity (almost full and you can see his dick most of the time) all the time.
modern manga and anime are FAR MORE censored than they used to be.
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Fanservice was more casual before the 00s. Ironically, increased censoring made them even more in your face about the things they could get away with. Originally, girls would just casually strut around fully naked while things went on as usual, letting those who like it enjoy it and those who don't ignore it, but eventually, shows would come to a sudden halt just to make a big show and dance about "LOOK! SHE IS WEARING A SCHOOL SWIMSUIT! THIS IS FANSERVICE! WANT CAT EARS AND A MAID UNIFORM TOO?", actively impeding the plot. This was at its worst during the early-mid 00s, though, so it's a relic of the past by now.
I can't stand Mahoromatic because of this. People kept saying "it has a good story, keep watching." But the first 5 episodes were just cringe-worthy nude scenes with no plot.
I'm totally fine with nudity or anything, as long as it adds to the characters/plot in some way. And you can write a concept where ecchi actually connects to character development. Tawawa and Saber Marionette did it. These other shows are just lazy.
>Why do people insinuate that fanservice was only really a thing in anime in the 2000s and 2010s?
I have never heard that. But this might be this obnoxious nostalgia-goggled fags who learned to like anime via 90s dubbed action stuff that had blood and gore and REAL WOMMINZ! (you know, stereotypical "babes" and stuff), and now they think everything that's not this is an aberration rather than the norm.
Snuff was not uncommon in old hentai.
Tentacles occasionally shredded the girls to bits.
It was more organic for lack of a better term, and way the fuck less blatant. Shit could be sexy and have scenes of a sexual nature without being so "here it is panties/tits amirite guys." That said maybe they had a bunch of short-run non-hentai shows that were just as absurd as any of the recent niche shows, we just didn't get any of it because generally only the best of the best made it overseas at the time, but I somehow doubt it.
That really was just limited to Urotsukidoji and Demon Beast Invasion. Still, tentacles were a thing in general. Nowadays I get annoyed when westerners make "lol anime = tentacles" jokes because shit, I fucking wish, but that shit is so rare now outside of some niche doujins and VNs. XX of the Dead was the last really good one and its been years
That stuff already existed back then, but not only did it rarely get exported, much of it might be outright lost or obscure as hell.
A few years ago we had a thread about old stuff and some anime (I forgot the name) came up in some way (I think it was a chart for anime that aired in one of the 90s years) had over 200 epsiodes and several movies. Today it's just gone. Even wikipedia had no proper entry beyond a basic description (it was a RomCom).
When something like this can disappear, just think about some random pervy show with six epsiodes.
There were more.
But not enough.
Normalfags who've seen about 5 anime
A lot of localisations would censor or cut fan service.
>Start wining a decades-long battle against censorship of violence and stigmatization of sexual content in the late '80s/early '90s
>Social justice fags come along and undo it all
Thanks a lot, you stupid young fucks.
Japan's censorship laws have nothing to do with western wokeness. It's literally the opposite.
Watch ranma in japanese you will see a cursed guy that transform into a girl with cold water and hos he becsme more slut the more chapters the series went (hate for akane poor or bad dubbing made it look as he never did something wrong ) there are times akane called ranma a "pervert mentally transtorned " because he behaved like a cheap whore.
Modern anime will never compare watch jungle de ikou and you will see the difference
A friend is from that generation and fuck they are useless and always complaining of content from old anime.
>Why do people insinuate that fanservice was only really a thing in anime in the 2000s and 2010s?
They don't.
2000s onward was when fanservice started to become very badly done in most anime.