ITT we discuss the differences in artstyle between male and female mangaka and how you can tell the difference when reading manga or watching anime. this is not a "who's better" thread but just something I found interesting to think about. you can also mention writing styles if you want.
female mangaka >tends to have "cuter" artstyle >highlights daily mannerisms of girls that you don't see in male-authored manga e.g. doing hair, makeup, helping sisters, etc. >girls aren't overtly lewd. rather, characters with large chests have tasteful designs and their chests don't jump out at you like in many shounen manga e.g. aoyama blue mountain in gochi usa or shinobu from kimetsu no yaiba - she wears what looks like a conservative uniform but her bodyform can still be seen which is what I consider tasteful >hair is more detailed or effort is taken to include a variation of feminie hairstyles >male characters are also more cuter or modelled in a way to look more reliable to women >fanservice exists but isn't in your face
please feel free to add to this or correct me. obviously exceptions exist but for now we're talking about general trends.
but there are general traits and themes, I did say exceptions exist
Ryan Thompson
This is only relevant when female mangaka draw for non female oriented series, should specify that. But yes, you can usually tell when a mangaka is male or female by the character designs and types of fanservice they focus on.
Justin Russell
oh I forgot to mention that oops. how do you tell the difference when they write for non-female oriented series?
Dominic Morris
There are exceptions to everything and I've been wrong before, but usually the character designs and interactions give it away. It's easy to spot in series like Reborn! cause the guys look like they came straight out of an otome game but with Kimetsu as in your example the biggest focus in the character designs arent tits and ass, it's the clothing patterns. It's a very womanly thing to commit to drawing those unique patterns for both male and female characters rather than easy fanservice elements. It shows the artist has a passion for historical fashion, which is typically a female interest. But also as you said, mannerisms usually give it away as well with the accuracy to reality. Easier to tell as a female myself.
Jacob Ward
>only relevant when female mangaka draw for non female oriented series Not necessarily. >hair is more detailed or effort is taken to include a variation of feminine hairstyles I think this one struck out to me when comparing Precure designs by male character designers versus female. Generally speaking, the Cure hairstyles designed by men are usually variations of long hair down/ponytail/twin tails/side tail, while the women tend to design some weird shit. The exception would be Takahashi's Dokis and a couple of his Star Twinkles.
I read FMA and Blue Exorcist and never knew they were written by women until I was told. Just stop.
Easton Barnes
Female >Better at expressing emotions on characters face >Very round faces with large eyes >Normally not good with anatomy >Not much shading
Austin Jackson
wow yes the attention to details on clothes is a major point. >historical fashion I recall a thread on here about a central asian bride manga that was made by a woman >spoiler do you lean towards shonen like KnY and Kirara fantasia magazine series or would you say you have more in common with the usual Zig Forums demographic?
Ian Moore
so I was right about hair any examples of the lack of shading? I already said this is not that kind of thread, don't take offence when there is no intention to give any
Evan Rodriguez
>Normally not good with anatomy This really just comes down to how much they've studied and practiced. Shoujo mangaka only have this reputation because they traditionally start younger, before they get to learn the fundamentals in art class/school.
Otoyomegatari is written by a woman, yes.
Brandon Nelson
Think it’s more to do with writing
Female mangaka write female characters that participate in the story(like wani and Rumiko)
Male mangaka just write eye candy ( kishi, Hori)
Adam Jackson
>Normally not good with anatomy Most manga I've read by women mangaka have great anatomy. I guess it depends on the kind of story it is. Women also tend to write more grounded characters.
Camden Gomez
>Blue Exorcist Sorry but that series is fujo as hell, you must be naturally oblivious to these things to not tell. FMA is slightly harder cause the art style is pretty masculine but I could still tell.
I like both mainstream shounen (BnHA, SnK, KnY, JJK, Chainsaw, etc) and a few shounen for girls series like Hanako-kun, Noragami, and Kemono Jihen, but I'm pickier about those and dont like it when they seem to pander too hard.
Henry Lee
There's subtle things, for example the way they draw lines. Women usually draw softer lines while men tend to draw lines in a more harsh way.
Jaxon Ward
Women write terrible endings, and aren't willing to kill off characters or take the story to a darker place. I mean why would they? Women have every privilege in the world. Even if something terrible does happen to them, they have such a massive support network that they don't need things like art to express themselves.
Almost every classic piece of literature, film, or animation is written by a man. Women just aren't capable of making great art, because women aren't capable of being as depressed as men.
Henry Collins
I mean think about it, does anyone here REALLY think a woman could have written Evangelion? Could a woman write something like "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" or create something beautiful like the David or the Sistine Chapel?
Grayson Scott
FMA>>>>>>>Eva
Christian Ross
females focus on relationship dynamics males forcus on self confidence and self improvement.
Aiden Bennett
Why are the retards arguing about quality of writing when the topic is about artstyle. Seriously subhumans shouldn't come to Zig Forums.
Zachary White
>fujo as hell MC is as good as married to the busty blonde, and his twin brother nearly impregnated best girl Shura but OK let's pretend you've read it
Aiden Sanchez
>you can also mention writing styles if you want. Dumbass
Parker Mitchell
> you can also mention writing styles if you want. speedreader
Grayson Rogers
We're talking about anime and manga.
Connor Wilson
I like FMA... but you're not seriously trying to suggest it has as much depth as Eva, right? Eva is a much more emotional and personal story, which is why it's better. I just don't believe women are capable of being as emotionally isolated as men are, so their work doesn't reflect any sort of pain. They can just go talk to any number of free resources about their issues. Men don't have that luxury, and their art reflects that. All great art was inspired by pain. Sure there's some great female artists, but the reality is men are simply better at it due to gender roles existing and putting more of an emotional burden on men.
Wyatt Johnson
It's all the same shit, most great work in anime and manga have male artists. This is a universal trend when it comes to art.
Gabriel Brown
I've always wondered what it must have felt like living in the medieval times, thanks m8.
Nathaniel Collins
Men have been beating the shit out of women for fucking millenias Women can deal with pain better, Men are pussies and have to deal with their pain through pretty pictures and Tibetan fly-fishing forums
Gavin Howard
those are some good points that I've never picked up on, very interesting oh okay that seems pretty par for the course then. before I made this thread I didn't even know shounen for girls was even a thing, pretty neat could you show an example? >artstyle thread with only three images ;_; I already said this wasn't about who's better, writing style means themes and such, not about quality. I know "bad endings" technically count as a writing style but that's more about quality. this isn't a "women can't draw/write for shit" thread
Benjamin Lopez
to get us back on topic here's an example of what I think the anons meant by bigger eyes and softer lines - I don't mean shoujo ai type massive eyes. of course nozaki kun is also a parody of the genre but the author doesn't try to hide her stylisation
>women can deal with pain better More like they don't have to deal with it at all. It's kinda hard to write or draw something good when the only experiences you have are positive ones.
I'm sorry but genius and talent can't be suppressed. It never existed in the first place. Hence why an overwhelming majority of great artists and writers, in manga/anime or outside it, are male.
The presence of female characters doesn't negate a series' fujo appeal. Rin is a male main character tailor written for the female gaze. He's got the rebellious exterior but a softy on the inside personality, his expressions and reactions are often drawn to look overly cute, he's got pointy ears and tail, and emotional family drama that girls eat up. His hobby is cooking, for goodness sake. Yukio has the broody personality along with said family drama that draws in the old Sasuke fangirls, with extra glasses on top. Overall the artstyle is super feminine to the point that I'm honestly shocked anyone can look at this and not know a woman drew it.
