1998-1999 - Kara no Kyoukai 2000 - Tsukihime 2001 - Kagetsu Tohya 2003 - Melty Blood, Tsuki-Bako, and Tsukihime Manga 2004 - Fate/stay night 2005 - Fate/hollow ataraxia 2006 - Fate/Zero 2007 - Fate/stay night Realta Nua for PS2 2008 - Tsukihime Remake and Mahoutsukai no Yoru trilogy announcement 2010 - Fate/Extra 2011 - Fate/Zero anime 2012 - Mahoyo, Part 1 and Fate/stay night Realta Nua for PSV 2013 - Fate/Extra CCC 2014 - Fate/hollow ataraxia for PSV 2015 - FGO and Fate/stay Night [Realta Nua] to iPhone and Android 2016 - FGO and Fate/Extella 2017 - FGO 2018 - FGO, Fate/Extra: Last Encore and Fate/Extella Link 2019 - FGO 2020 - FGO 2021 - Fate/EXTRA Record, a remake of Fate/EXTRA 2022 - FGO 2023 - FGO
>2011 - Fate/Zero anime Right here, this is where it all went wrong. Why'd you list that anime in particular and not F/SN UBW or F/SN DEEN? Because that's the problem one. Zero ruined everything.
Cameron Moore
They found a cash cow and are in the process of milking it dry.
Justin Howard
Two things. F/SN success that side tracked then but more importantly Mahoyo failure.
There is simply too much money with F/SN and Mahoyo failure sealed the deal, there is no reason to work on new projects as long the cashflow from F/SN, considering they were pretty much a very small team and never really had much of a output (pretty much a single project at the time starting when the last one ended) they were never really a "company" and more Kinoko Nasu and Takashi Takeuchi who appear to not really have much of a interest on new works, in Nasu case you could see that as much all ended up in a "Nasuverse" and I think Mahoyo failure hit him hard.
Hudson Fisher
They were founded.
Asher Ward
Zero anime is also when TM peaked, everything afterward is trash
For good or for worse, GO made more money in one or so years than the last 16 years added together.
Ayden Perez
It was all downhill since F/HA coupled with the rise of mobile gaming and stagnation of the medium. Fate is dead at this point and no part of the man that created FSN remains in Nasu and he's even gone as far to say he's embarassed of his old self from what I recall so there's never going to be a decent continuation to the universe. He should unironically comission another work from urobutcher, let him take over writing a new VN since he clearly has lost his chops.
Brayden Gray
They're remaking EXTRA? So we get to play more Rock-paper-scissors.
Dylan Gray
they went from incredibly niche to having a little bit of everything anyone can enjoy. Everything went right
Leo Cox
>When there's Mahoyo Stop baiting, Zerofag.
Christian Green
>a little bit of everything anyone can enjoy. No there's nothing people with an above 2 digit IQ can enjoy in modern type moon.
Jose Richardson
>incredibly niche FSN was easily one of the most popular VNs and one of the few among touhou that got their own halls at comiket so not really
Aaron Johnson
He said "went from". FSN sure as hell didn't just jump straight into that level of popularity.
Daniel Howard
this is the only site that's actively hating against it. Sorry, but you're all alone in your narrative
Camden Hall
>this is the only site that's actively hating against it. You're retarded there are plenty of people hating it all over, of course there isn't any site dedicated to hating it that doesn't mean shit. Also popularity does not equal quality, thanks for proving you have a two digit IQ by actually making that argument.
Jayden Miller
>After the release of the original game, how was the response to HF? >After I had finished writing the scenario, I had a feeling of completion and thought "I've cleared a difficult task!", but after having received far more reactions and response to it than I had imagined or expected, I felt that I was able to learn a lot from it.
>To be precise, which kinds of reactions do you remember the most, Nasu-san? >I felt that users want feel-good stories more than anything else. If you play Fate and UBW, you get to taste feel-good storytelling for roughly 40 hours. So I felt that there was no need for HF to be a feel-good story after all that, but then I learned that apparently not all users feel the same way. I reflected on this greatly, and came to the conclusion that for some works, it's okay to aim for being feel-good all the way through. I believe that if it weren't for my reflection back then, Type Moon wouldn't be the way it is today.
tl;dr: People hating HF and Sakura made Nasu go full soulless otaku pandering mode.
Right now, half of my time is spent on FGO Fans who have been supporting TM since the olden days said that “it’s shallow”, but it could be said that it only appears that way due to the result of broadening the scope to allow a wider audience to enjoy it.
But the truth is, the core has not been changed. The direction and goal is as such: if you keep playing, you’ll end up thinking, “It’s the same TM as before”.
Please stay with us till the end. I think it’s wrong to think that the current TM has been fully exposed. The roots are still the same.
Parker King
>thanks for proving you have a two digit IQ by actually making that argument. Actually most of humanity have a 2 digits IQ, and virtually every person of black descent. So how do you feel knowing that you are a biggot and possibly a racist?
William Allen
>It's shallow >n-no we're just broadening... widening the audience
It is literally shallow garbage He's just in it for the money, he has to say all that to get the money raked in, what a liar
Mason Smith
Fate was never "incredibly niche" lol
Brandon Adams
>Olga-Marie turns back the hourglass ending >deep
Hunter Moore
It was a VN, back in a time when that shit wasn't all over. Hell most people who know of FGo don't even know where it started.
Angel Cruz
Re-read that guy's post. >they went from incredibly niche That user never specified Fate. You do know TM started off doing stuff that wasn't Fate, right? You and the other user just assumed he said Fate even though he never did and the OP said Type Moon and was talking about what they've done beyond Fate.
Adam Howard
Because VN's don't bring in any money anymore, its gotten so bad that even eroges are becoming scare. Type-Moon found their golden child in FGO and they don't feel like throwing their money away on a Tsukihime remake or hell even a Fate English translation because its too much of a risk. And after Mahoyo almost bankrupted the company they're too afraid of going for new stuff. FGO and Zero brought in a bunch of secondaries, but that only ruined the culture of mainstream Fate, Type-Moon as a company was already dead financially so they gambled and became dead intellectually by embracing the secondaries. Also Nasu hates his old work.
>And after Mahoyo almost bankrupted the company Mahoyo was five hours long, unfinished, and didn't even have voices. The number one complaint with it and the reason it was so panned was BECAUSE it was a low-effort no-budget release from the most successful VN company of all time.
Tyler Evans
The effects of it drained the company because they got no sales from the game, EA can put out a shit game that no one buys and they'll live because they got 20 other games on the shelf. Type-Moon was left only with Mahoyo and the moderatly succesful Fate/Extra CCC. Its not a matter of losing money from Mahoyo as it is not bringing in enough for buissness expense.
Tyler Rogers
Why does Zig Forums always do this? We have have one big Fate thread a month then an explosion of typemoon shit then it all dies again just to repeated
Thomas Cox
>then an explosion of typemoon shit I think that damn gook is back is the problem
