>Can instantly create infinite copies of any weapon as long as he can rules lawyer his way into believing it's a sword, even if its literally made by God >Also gains mastery over these weapons instantly and can fight with them almost as well as their original owners >Can also instantly recreate any weapons he saw in the past >Can modify them into arrows and shoot them out like a machine gun I don't understand why he's not literally the strongest hero you can summon. If your servant has a weapon, he can copy it and shoot a million of them at you. If your servant doesn't rely on a weaponry, he can still summon a million Excaliburs and nuke you from halfway across the city.
How does he ever lose without story bullshit like not having a mana supply or going up against Gods that literally cannot die who can't even be summoned normally anyway?
I remember him saying that trying to replicate a holy sword like Excaliber would cost him his life. And also Ea exists; he can’t analyze or replicate Gil’s trump card.
John Jenkins
Because he doesn't have the mana to mass reproduce. Also, his copies are one rank below the original. He can get by this by using them as broken phantasms (which gains one rank) but he can only use the copy once like that, and not in its intended use anyway. He's OP on paper.
Benjamin Wood
Nasu just outright forgot Archer saying he can trace Excalibur in the original VN and later established that he can't. People have tried to reconcile it by saying Archer was bluffing, but that obviously wasn't the intent.
Bentley Scott
I distinctly remember one of his attacks in Extra was instantly making either Exalibur or Caliburn and beaming the enemy with it, so even if we assume that he can't copy the reality destroying Ea or the Gaia created Exalibur, at the end of the day, he can still shot a million Caliburns at you like missiles.
Aaron Butler
I wonder if that means Clarent is two ranks lower because it's both fake and he's not a King?
Samuel Allen
>Because he doesn't have the mana to mass reproduce. They're free inside UBW and if he can pop it without a Master feeding him mana, then any halfway decent Mage should be able to supply him with enough mana to keep UBW up.
Inside UBW, I don't see anyway he can lose to anyone. Sure, Ea might be able to destroy UBW, but Gil will never get a shot off before he's overwhelmed since its stated that UBW can overwhelm GoB.
Zachary Morales
>How does he ever lose without story bullshit? Because he's a retard.
He can project it, but it'll kill him, so functionally he can't. That would be retarded if he just wasn't strong enough to do it, since Shirou does it himself at the end of Heaven's Feel.
Juan Rogers
>Q: What is the limit of replication in UBW? The highest level of NP (sword types) is probably Ea, but while it might be impossible for Shirou, could Archer make it? Also, under the meaning of weapons, to what extent can he make modern weapons? Must it be only blade types or can he make guns and mobile weapons? >A: Divine constructs like Ea and Excalibur are non-replicable. There might be some degraded NPs with similar performance in stock though. Also, since sword is becoming his origin, the weapons that he has stored are fundamentally limited to close combat. Nasu forgot.
William Campbell
>Inside UBW, I don't see anyway he can lose to anyone. What if Lancer and Gil tag-teamed him, with Gil distracting him via sword spam and Lancer sneaking up behind him and gay bulging him a new asshole?
>Nasu forgot. Nasu also forgot that people who use guns couldn't be Heroes.
Jonathan Allen
you're correct protagonist is OP as always
Matthew Reyes
He has to get UBW off in the first place.
Cameron Thomas
He literally isn't meant to be able to lose, he's a counter guardian first, heroic spirit last He just happens to job hard when not summoned by the planet/moon cell because he's reduced to his class container limitation
Jayden Wright
He can't produce divine constructs unless there's some reason like Avalon and his prana is low. He can't actually beat anyone at their own game so he has to compensate by having so many different weapons.
Brody Bennett
redman is literally one of the weakest servant nigga
Matthew Mitchell
Emiya's copies are always a tier lower than the real thing and he can't summon divine constructs like Excalibur or Ea. He also has shit stats and doesn't have the mana to actually use a lot of his copies at their full potential. Even without using the bullshitoneum "u ded" ability of Gae Bolg, Cu was absolutely wrecking him just with pure prowess.
Daniel Fisher
The real answer is that Nasu hates powerful people so one of the rules on the Nasuverse is that being strong makes you weak. The higher your power is stated to be and the more hyped your abilities are the bigger the chance you'll die before the end of the conflict. Only weakass people wins Holy Grails. So much it stopped being an unprecedented subversion to become the boring norm.
Daniel Gonzalez
Canonically, haven't powerful heroes won most of the Grail Wars? The Fourth and Fifth were both won in most routes by a Master-Servant pair with Artoria in it, who is lauded as one of the best Servants. IIRC two of the others were failures and one ended with Bellerophon, who seems like he'd be a powerful Servant, winning.
Isaiah Clark
He really isn't. There's a shit ton of Servants that are complete crap compared to the powerhouses in the 4th and 5th wars, and most of the bullshit ones FGO added aren't even applicable in the first place. He's definitely above average just for the simple fact he's one of the few Servants capable of killing Herc more than once, and his ability to basically hold his own while not being truly serious in a battle royale where everyone is on a higher tier than him makes him exceptional even there.
Benjamin Thompson
Instantly BTFO by BASED Jetfag Next
Jaxon Ross
Your first two points are wrong though.
Luis Diaz
Why doesn't he just replicate a lightsaber? There are no magical hax bullshit involved, as even Han Solo can operate a lightsaber.
Oliver Miller
That's background which is equal to hype. Powerful heroes winning offscreen stuff is just fluff to try and make more exciting when the "weakling" wins everything at the end. I'm tired of that. Even the master in FGO is a "below average" mage with poor circuits which is barely able to summon servants and hardly anything else. I'm siding with the crypters on this one.
Matthew Roberts
A lightsaber is an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.
Noah Thompson
Alien materials and requirement of the force so he can't copy it
Aiden Flores
False. He is shown to be able to replicate Ig-Alima and Sul-Sagana, both of which are divine constructs. Nasu can say he can't all he wants, but if he shows him canonically going against his word then word of god don't mean shit. To say nothing of the fact that GARcher outright states that he can replicate Excalibur, and doesn't Shirou actually do it himself at the end of HF? I'm not saying EMIYA is the strongest servant, but he's definitely up there.
Mason Davis
Bellerophon? Isn't that the name of Rider's NP pegasus? Am I missing something?
Brody Williams
>He is shown to be able to replicate Ig-Alima and Sul-Sagana Prisma is stated by the author not to be canon, and Shirou couldn't use those properly >doesn't Shirou actually do it himself at the end of HF His body got destroyed in both Normal and True End
Noah Morales
It's laughable that anyone would think Redman is a weak servant. If you're actually fighting a real Grail War, he's literally the best servant you can get because he fights like an assassin, but he also has the bullshit to beat like 99% of all Servants he can't just snipe with a gae bolg arrow
Gavin Hughes
I know NPs are common as fuck in Fate but it's important to remember that they're very valuable weapons. Replicating an NP comes at a huge cost compared to your everyday butterknife so no he can't just shoot them for free at people just because he has a copy. Using Caliburn broke Shirou's wrists, and in HF Shirou, who has adapted significantly closer to Archer, opts to not replicate Excaliber and goes for KB instead. This may be an extreme example because Archer says using Excaliber will in fact, kill him, but it illustrates that he can't just use anyone's Noble Phantasm with no consequence; for example: Aius. These are high cost weapons, but you'll need Noble Phantasms to combat the likes of heroic spirits. While UBW "is" unlimited, Archer's circuits are not. Broken Phantasms require quite a bit of magical energy since he has to overload an NP's capacity. There's a point where Archer would be exerting more into using a Broken Phantasm than he would be using UBW. With all of these costs and conditions at play, it's important to remember that most Servants don't just leave their NP wide in the open for anyone to see. Depending on the circumstances, and whether or not Archer knows their identity, he needs to balance his energy consumption so he doesn't burn out, while keeping his enemy in check until he can confirm that he has a weapon in UBW that outdoes his opponent or their NP. He can't just throw them out until one works. Even if he did have the prana he has to be wary of THEIR NP. Imagine if he's fighting Bazette with Lancer. You'd have him cast UBW, summon 100 copies of Caliburn, and just shoot them because we know they're quality blades? You'd lose your Servant being that reckless when Bazette whips out Fragarach. He's better off facing Lancer head on so he can potentially hinder the usage of an NP until he can identify him. From there he can determine if he'd be able to beat Lancer or his NP with a weapon or combination of weapons he has.
