Power Levels ruined One Piece

All the advantages of Luffy's devil fruit are made pointless by people who don't even have or use their devil fruit.

>Uses fruit to move super fast. But it has been proven that people can move just as fast or faster than luffy without a devil fruit (Sanji)
>Uses fruit to be more tanky. But people like Kaido can one shot luffy with a regular haki attack.
>Uses fruit to for more power. But other characters hit way harder than luffy without the help of a devil fruit, and can tank his attacks pretty effortlessly.

What's the point in giving luffy the rubber fruit if it's going to be useless? It seems like Haki is the only thing that matters.

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>But it has been proven that people can move just as fast or faster than luffy without a devil fruit
That was proven with Kuro who was basically using Soru. The Fishmen were technically faster than luffy too

>Uses fruit to be more tanky. But people like Kaido can one shot luffy with a regular haki attack.
I'll admit Haki messes this up a lot but the fruit still lets him tank a ton of damage

>Uses fruit to for more power. But other characters hit way harder than luffy without the help of a devil fruit, and can tank his attacks pretty effortlessly.
Come on, that was happening since East Blue

Oda's mistake was making the Emperors so absurdly powerful that they have to become jobbers for Luffy to win. But haki was not a mistake, the devil fruits needed a counter to make it believable that the world government was able to rule for so long and not be destroyed by a determined group of devil fruit users.

That's not what jobbing is, dipshit

Zoro starts doing shit like basically teleporting and slashing people with fucking air as soon as he shows up

jobbing is losing to a character that they should've won against, so yeah, it is

Fruits gives you a nice bonus to your stats if used correctly. Luffy was way above east blue level when he started thanks to his training with his fruit. Also, it gives him immunities to electrical and blunt damage, allows him to unlock lategame skills like soru... what else do you want?

AntiOPfags are literaly retarded

No it isn't, jobbing is losing just to prop up another character.
You also can't job to a protagonist.
It'd be jobbing if another villain came out of nowhere and one shotted Kaido just to show how totally badass he is. It'd be jobbing if Kaido lost to Chopper or Usopp or someone just to try and make them look good.

It's not jobbing when the protagonist beats the antagonist against overwhelming odds, that's just storytelling.

My problem is the lack of consitiency. Kaido blitzes Luffy and jobs to scabbards, BIGMOM hypertanks Luffy and is OHKO by Queen.

Whitebeard is the only Yonko that made sense at the time and now I don't understand why Kaido or BigMUM didn't just go wipe him out.

>Kaido blitzes Luffy and jobs to scabbards,
They can use Ryou and Luffy can't

>BIGMOM hypertanks Luffy and is OHKO by Queen.
She was bonked on the head and then took a nap

>They can use Ryou and Luffy can't
I'm talking about the speed more than his inability to hurt him. He speedblitzed Luffy

>She was bonked on the head and then took a nap
Remember the whole cake plotline where she has permanent, unconcious super arnament haki at all times even when sleeping. The only way to hurt her was to hurt her psychologically to make her drop her guard for 10 seconds.

imagine caring about powerlevels
the absolute state of shonentards.

Kek, the point of the rubber fruit is that it WAS useless. Amazing thread retard.

If you're going to shitpost about the manga can you atleast read it?
>>Uses fruit to be more tanky. But people like Kaido can one shot luffy with a regular haki attack.
And any random with a sword can stab him, whats your point?

How many more Gears is Luffy gonna have?

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32

1 more. Which wilm combine all Advanced Haki types + his awakening. Monkey King mode

not true moron it started out where luffy was immune to a lot of attacks like bullets. from the very beginning it was useful

What if in the realm of haki, the rubber is something more like a 50% shock absorber?
No-one ever said haki completely invalidated fruit powers, only that it could get around them. Maybe the cost is how efficiently your power is used.

Otherwise, only fruits with offensive or movement based benefits would be good. If any defensive effect is 100% nullified by haki, then it's OUT OF THE META

>fruits needed a counter
I agree with you on that but giving all DF the same counter is lame, giving a specific counter to every DF (like Crocodile being touchable when he's wet) and have the main characters trying to figure it out would have been more interesting.

I like how Oda can avoid plotholes by just not explaining shit and letting readers rationalize it for him.

power levels didn't ruined One Piece, Oda ruined it because he's a hack

Oda did show that the rubber is useful in the Doflamingo fight when Gear Fourth tanked attacks by being rock solid and flexible at the same time.

Then Oda showed that the ribber useless when Kaido one shotted the gear fourth

rubber man isnt impervious to take damage.

Yeah, and Queen, a Commander bonking her on the head with one of his strongest attacks, 'hurt' her just enough for her to calm down and notice she was sleepy.

>Power Levels ruined One Piece
It's the other way around, fag.
One Piece ruined Power Levels.

I never said it makes him impervious. Don't change the topic. I said that the rubber was useless since Kaido was able to one shot him.

Every fruit is useful, or did you miss the entire katakuri fight?

>doflamingo's kick is the same as Kaido's club that not only dwarfs Luffys entire body but is also swung by the current strongest creature in universe.

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honestly yea haki is kind of messing with the whole of one piece. Its way lazy compared to devil fruits.

I stopped watching One Piece when Toonami stopped airing it. Maybe around the tkme they went into the sky and fought some fat floating guy. Did Luffy get anh closer to One Piece? What's this Haki I keep hearing about? I hope it's not some system to add power levels in the show. I just want to watch the ending.