>Villain is evil because... he's evil
Villain is evil because... he's evil
Carter Richardson
Robert Gray
That's not always a bad decision, it depends on the narrative. Also despite all of the things that make MHA not likeable allforone isn't evil for just because kind of reasons
Robert Anderson
He's not evil though.
He's literally helping people who get stuck with shit genetics get rid of them or get better ones.
He doesn't even ask for anything in return they just give him money and stuff in return out of gratitude.
His brother was just butthurt about it because he's too retarded to realize that a lot of people are unironically born with massive disadvantages.
Hard work isn't a substitute for a lucky birth.
Joseph Russell
Way better villain than Muzan.
Christopher Hall
His quirk is evil so yes
Andrew Miller
this is why unordinary is better
Asher Roberts
A villain doesn't need to have complex or thought out motives to be good. As long as they're entertaining and facilitate good story, they can be great.
Hudson Cook
Dio is none of the above yet people love him.
Lucas Price
What's wrong with a villain being evil just because they're evil?
Henry Murphy
Opinions but I think Dio is entertaining as fuck. He’s a good example of a villain who’s just pure evil working for me because the whole of part 3 is just buildup to the point where Jotaro finally gets to beat his ass, so all the scumfuck awful stuff he’s done makes it all the more satisfying when he bites it.
Austin Perry
>op is a faggot because... he's a faggot
Jack Sanchez
He's not evil for evil's sake. He wants to rule the world, and feels he has the power to do so.
Lucas Morgan
Hero Society itself is evil and AFO is doing his moral duty to uproot it.
Ryder Morgan
MHA and Naruto are basically the bootlicker centrals.
COPS = GOOD
SYSTEM = GOOD
CRIMINALS = BAD
Thats why one piece is the greatest shonen of all time. It takes an approach which doesnt suck the government's dick which is kind of impressive for japanese standards,
Charles Gonzalez
Stain detected go back to jail
I'm not a crinimal
Mason Williams
Gold roger died by the government, what a pussy
Aaron Robinson
Well, Zig Forums?
Adrian Gonzalez
He's only evil if you think his ideas are evil. Otherwise, he's a king. Funny how no one ever complains about a hero being good because he's good.
Elijah Nelson
sometimes people are just assholes, user. you'll come to realize this once you've been out of school for a few years.
Jaxson Hall
That's actually not unrealistic. There are plenty of people in the world who are cruel assholes because they get a kick out of it. No extra sad backstory or means-justify-ends bullshit required. Likewise someone who likes being nice doesn't need to constantly justify being nice. Though you'll rarely see anyone complain about that.
And realism aside (because fuck it, really) a character doesn't need to be """deep""" to be effective and memorable in a role. The villain antagonist exists to serve a purpose within a story - to drive the plot - and they often don't need a ton of extra fluff to do so. In the case of many villains, it's enough that they're ambitious individuals with a willingness to crush those in the way.
Joshua Perez
Having unlimited power and one sole opposition would turn most people evil, user. So AfO is a pretty realistic villain in that regard
Ryder Myers
>protagonist is good because...they're good
Matthew Gomez
I don't see the issue here.
Bentley Scott
Some people want every story to be the same, with a villain that turns out to have some incredible point that wrong for the right reasons or right for the wrong reasons, and/or a tragic past that makes him the victim of this or the product of that, to justify every action, at least in part, according to their own moral compass. But sometimes a simple story is best, and we don't HAVE to see ourselves in every aspect of a story.
Jason Watson
AfO is the mirror of Shiggy
AfO causes chaos and destruction, not cause he loves it, but as a means to an end. He ultimately just wants to be at the very top of the human social hierarchy.
Shiggy is the inverse. He uses hierarchies as a means to an end. Despite having no leadership characteristics, and no real pleasure from leadership; Shiggy leads the League of Villains and then the Paranormal Liberation Front. That's because it helps him achieve his real goal, which is destruction of everything he hates, and even destruction as an end in itself.
Benjamin Roberts
>All For One uses destruction to get social power.
>Tomura Shigaraki uses social power to get destruction.
Landon Allen
And yet hes still a better villain than Shigaraki
A villain doesn't need to be complex to be good. They just have be entertaining.
Angel Nguyen
>Villain is evil because... he's evil
Julian Sanchez
Be entertaining and drive the plot forward, but yeah you're right
Jacob Ross
madara wanted to put people in the matrix to make them happy. he wasnt just evil
Nathaniel Perez
>CRIMINALS = BAD
Yes.
Cooper Anderson
>and drive the plot forward
Not even that sometimes.
A villain can be effective, drive the plot forward ad be strong and none of that matters if they're not entertaining. Charisma matters more, or a perhaps a strong personal connection to a hero. Compare two villains that move the plot equally and people will always prefer the one thats more entertaining to them. Because how much something is entertaining is always the most important quality in media.
AFO manages to be a more entertaining villain simply because hes far more charismatic than Shigaraki. Shiggy is strong now but his goals are boring, and I have never liked his personality.
Dylan Morales
>CRIMINALS = BAD
Yes
Leo Garcia
Cops are good.
Fuck the vocal US minority who claims otherwise.