Why are shonen writers so bad at planning their own power creep...

Why are shonen writers so bad at planning their own power creep? Like at some point in time everyones gotta be in Superman tier to even stand a chance

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They don't understand how to raise stakes beyond upping the powerlevels.

all this bullshit about powerlevels is ruining shounen discussion.

why would you care about that if you are 13 or older? look at character arc, themes and art or read something that isn't fucking battle shounen

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The real answer is that Japanese society is heavily structured on an arbitrary basis that is founded on experience and seniority which is why you have the senpai/kouhai system in Japanese workplaces, academia etc. Due to this rigidity, a nip is comfortable knowing that there is a hierarchy in place wherever they go and due to their ingrained upbringing to respect the hierarchical system, their perspective on progression is tied to a neatly tiered system. This results in autistic power-leveling in many manga where it borders on silliness at times.

Stan Lee got tired of this shit in the 60s

The stakes aren't the problem. But when you have super powers, and you want to show that your protagonist isn't stagnant but actually learning things, then powerlevels are going to escalate.

More like editors force them to stack powers over powers like a game of Jenga. Not entirely the fault of the writers in most cases.

Gotta stretch it out so long as the sales are high.

>to even stand a chance
About that...

Because they don't plan on it running that long. How could they? they don't know if it's going to be a mega success or not.

Because they have to deal with editors, corporations, sponsor, retarded deadlines, austistic fans and their plans and ideas constantly being changed at a whim
This isnt fucking fanfiction, these guys cant plan out everything months in advance and just write it and turn it in, do you really think its that easy to write a mainstream story?

>why would you care about that if you are 13 or older?
Because it's fun.

>Grade 3: if you have a handgun you can rest easy
I love American education.

You have like a 1 in 1000 chance that your stuff gets serialized and runs long enough for this to be an issue, and you want people to plan this far ahead? Despite them often creating dozens of oneshots, hoping one of them will actually succeed?

How far in life do you plan ahead OP? Do you take gambles and chance into account?

I reckon I could beat a 3rd grader if I had a gun.

Why contain it? You shounenspics love retarded powerlevels. Its what makes these series popular.

>One Piece devolved into DBZ style haki power struggles, Devil Fruits are nothing but flavour now and you can get DF-style abilities without a DF anyway
>Fairy Tail never had a consistent powerscale anyway because Mashima is on record saying nothing besides the MC's backstory was planned, but power scaling was still fucked up anyway and people won fights because of friendship
>Bankai became a joke in Bleach, nobody beneath captain rank was worth anything at all
>DBZ/DBS has been the Goku show for the last few decades, but despite being around universe buster power right now the ki attacks are the same size they always were and somehow they don't destroy the planet just by being nearby
Is there a single shonen with good power scaling?

My Hero Academia

Try reading something that doesn't run in Jump.

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Unironically HxH the greatest shonen
Sauce?

Why can I not care about everything?

Sengoku Youko, by Zig Forums mangaka-darling Mizukami (Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer, Spirit Circle)

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World Trigger

Shounen mangas should take inspiration from real life boxing champions and their legacies

The one written by an actual writer that has actually thought about the power escalation problem and decided to make a meta-joke out of it.

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>Like at some point in time everyones gotta be in Superman tier to even stand a chance
Ashita no joe
FMA
Kaiji
>One Piece devolved into DBZ style haki power struggles, Devil Fruits are nothing but flavour now and you can get DF-style abilities without a DF anyway
No? The only "superpowers" the average joe can get from Haki are becoming harder and anticipate better. How is that even in the same category of extraordinary as turning into a giraffe or smoke?
Also I don't agree with the haki part. Back Luffy won over Doflamingo not because of any bigger haki than his opponent but because of his devil fruit.

So Hajime no Ippo then.

Because mangaka who create for a big magazine like Shounen Jump have to create an exciting arc RIGHT NOW, they're not planning for a compelling or interesting story 2 or 3 arcs down the line, they're trying to stay in syndication and make their child audience buy and rank their manga highly in the present.
You get what you get when you read or watch battle shounen. How can the mangaka create a compelling long narrative when they have to churn out a chapter a week and make sure that weekly chapter holds the audience engagement every week?

jojo, requiem apart

>Why is a story directed by the whims of an editor every week so poorly planned?

not talking about boxing manga in particular

But boxing isn't really applicable to most non boxing scenarios. It requires a completely different physique and technique to traveling around the land and beating up bad people.

superman is just yamcha tier, so that's pretty tame

>that's pretty tame
Not if you started at Hajime no Ippo levels.