What the fuck is happening to One Piece?

At least half the threads have people complaining and calling it shit. Can someone explain why you guys hate Wano so bad? Is it cause you don't like Samurai? The hate has gotten really bad this arc but I don't know how people can hate the arc THIS bad.

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>muh wano
It's been shit since the timeskip. Wano isn't even close to being as bad as Dressrosa, although it's certainly trying to get to that level of horribleness, god bless its soul. Still needs its Bir D. Cage moment, though.

The art is so cluttered and trash. I can barely stand to look at it.

It's the obvious padding that's being forced as we wait for chapter 1000. Every chapter is the same, it shows several points of view of people reacting and running and doing nothing, then the final pages there's a set-up + shock value final page which becomes meaningless in the next chapter as there's no follow-up. This has been going for dozens of chapters and it honestly feels pointless. The best thing to do is to wait until end of year so Oda reaches his 1000 milestone and starts moving things along again.

Maybe the repetitiveness of OP is finally starting to kick in? Maybe people are starting to realise that Oda's going to retire before he finishes the story?

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The fanbase grew up, while the manga did not. Oda writes it like it's a story for his twelve year old self, and Anons had their taste evolve and change over time. Still they keep reading because of sunken cost.

Wan Pissubros?! They're making fun of us!

Padding for chapter 1000, duh.

Only the final page of the chapters move the story forward. So it takes One Piece 4 months to move the story forward as much as Chainsawman does in a single chapter.

WCI, Re-Sabody and Zou were great
Fishman Island and Punkhazard were OK but had problems
Dressrosa is godawful

Act 1 of Wano was good, Act 2 is pretty bad thus far, it has highlights like Ulti but Oda is historically awful at huge melees, its the same trash that ruined Marineford. Hoping it will improve after the Scabbards finish jobbing and we can get on with the actual plot.

For me it's the horrible pacing and sidelining the main characters for a ton of uninteresting ones.

>Can someone explain why you guys hate Wano so bad?
first time on Zig Forums? Zig Forums always hates the currently running arc

act 2 is finished, it was luffy in prison

>Why are you hating boring shit?
i don't know.

Damn, I just read up to the timeskip. Its pretty good so far. From the comments in this thread, i should stop here.

What manga should I read next?

Chainsaw Man

I still love One Piece.

I envy your low standards

Most of the readers just want to see an actual fight. But instead all we see is Luffy trying to reach something or escaping from something throughout the arcs. Doffy's defeat was the only exciting thing that happened since the fucking timeskip. I wouldn't count Katakuri as Kata himself gave the fight for him.

Kingdom, Toriko, Prison School.

ignore shitposters, they're just upset they cant binge read anymore

Absolute bullshit argument. Look at how fucking long Wano is. The pacing is much worse now. It's not people growing up, it's Oda slowing down.

I don't care about Kin or Momo or their struggle, never have, and that's on Oda for handling them so poorly. I hate Oden and think the wank surrounding him is the worst I've ever seen I have no idea what Oda thought he was doing here but whatever it was it didn't work the way he was hoping. Finally I do in fact despise feudal Japan as a setting, it's boring and played out and Oda so far hasn't done anything to spice it up or make it interesting at all, it's just the same old tropes but with random leather gimps in the background. Besides that the pacing has been utter shit, Oda's focusing on the most inane shit instead of things people want to see with characters people actually care about.

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I don't even know Luffy even had a defining moment after Dressrosa. So har he was completely bitchslapped by 2 yonkos and is about fucking it up in Wano.

Imagine wanting to see a fight from Oda's shitty choreography. Where they say a move, teleport behind someone and it beats them

Fans of everything do nothing but complain, especially about whatever the newest thing is. Don't take it seriously.

So it is, I forgot. In any case, Wano really drops off once the Oden flashback (sans Roger's bit) and the big fight in Onigashima breaks out.

sure buddy

>most of the readers want a fight
>in an adventure manga
lol, you're reading the wrong thing

this is objectively wrong.

I think Wano would be a better arc if Oda would emphasise the lives and hardships of people as he did on Alabasta. Instead more than half of arc had taken place in Queen's prison and wasted on fucking Oden's timeskip.

>.and the big fight in Onigashima breaks out.
interesting, you're one of the few people I've seen to not like the onigashima raid; from what ive seen, most posters here preferred it heavily to the rest of act 3

Well then maybe Oda should write about adventure instead of the war that's going on right now.

Such is the nature with serial releases, no? I think the exception was the episodic Hitman games.

Of course it's going to be long, it's wrapping up plot points that have been laid for the last 400+ chapters, it's a much bigger arc than anything oda has had beforehand. One thing that doesnt help the pacing, and I'll admit, is the constant breaks in chapters every couple weeks, but that's literally forced on oda by the editors

Fishman was horrible. Possibly the worst arc in the series. Dressrosa was stretched out and annoying but at least it had highlights.

One Piece fights are the only moments that define this manga. People are only enduring this whole feudal japan crap because of the Luffy vs Kaido fight.

It looked like it was going to be great at the start, then it was just chapters and chapters of running and stalling and one particularly garbage asspull character, now it's actual genuine stalling for Oda to wait until chapter 1000 for Luffy to reach Kaido.

>I think Wano would be a better arc if Oda would emphasise the lives and hardships of people as he did on Alabasta.
>and wasted on fucking Oden's timeskip.
user, the entire point of oden's flashback was to show the struggles and pains of the people

why can one piece fans just admit that their long running manga series just isn't that good overall

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It's ok OPbros, we still have our sales

>it's wrapping up plot points that have been laid for the last 400+ chapters
We spent the first two acts getting fed information that has never been mentioned before, this isn't wrapping up fucking shit it just keeps piling more garbage on top.

literally why do you care about the fans of a manga you don't like

Then why is Oda writing a story that is centered around fighting

Its Zig Forums, all these niggers here complain about shit 24/7.

idk,because of this thread?

>can someone explain why shitposting happen on Zig Forums
get out before its too late retard

>centered around fighting
>main character has had less than 10 fights in 1000 chapters

Wano is given too much important to the World of One Piece at the last lap of the race.
>It has a Red Poneglyph that leads to One Piece
Sure fine
>It's where most of Zoro's swords came from
Still Perfectly fine
>It's where Seastone Comes from
Wow, okay neat
>Oden was a member of Roger's pirates
Alright that's fine I guess
>Oden was the one who wrote Roger's message on the Skypeia Poneglyph
Wait WHAT
>The ancient language Robin knows is passed down through Oden's family
Hold up...
>The Kozuki clan has Voice of All Things
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>The World Government is somehow so afraid of the Samurai that despite knowing the same language as Robin refuse to do ANYTHING about it. (who apart from 'Do or Die' mode Scabbards have all been jobbers)
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Then there's the fact it's been so long with constant breaks and other miscellaneous things such as the Big Mom stuff, the fact there are way too many characters to focus on, and Kaido being nerfed repeatedly that just makes it a mess.

>show the struggles and pains of the people
It was about Oden irresponsibly playing piracy and dancing naked on streets before boiled alive. We've seen literally nothing about people on Wano except for them making occasinal appearances on backgrounds.

The reading comprehension on this board is fucking retard tier.

Well it did a bad job of it because it just focused on Oden and his retardation.

OP's a genius for gathering together everyone who proves him right.

>The World Government is somehow so afraid of the Samurai that despite knowing the same language as Robin refuse to do ANYTHING about it. (who apart from 'Do or Die' mode Scabbards have all been jobbers)
I dont suppose WG or anyone outside the fucking Kozuki clan knows anything about that fact. Even Robin was shocked by that reveal who spent her life on that shit.

For me personally there have just been too many long arcs since the time skip and it starts to grate on you when the manga has been in one spot for years. Seriously Wano started in 2018 and it's unlikely to end before 2021 that's insane.

>It's where most of Zoro's swords came from
we knew this
>It's where Seastone Comes from
we knew this
>The ancient language Robin knows is passed down through Oden's family
we knew this since zou
>>The World Government is somehow so afraid of the Samurai that despite knowing the same language as Robin refuse to do ANYTHING about it. (who apart from 'Do or Die' mode Scabbards have all been jobbers)
its been yonko territory for 20 years

Because it just drags on and on and on. Also, the Oden wankfest wasn’t as hyped up as it appeared to be in the flashback and it took for fucking ever to get to Onigashima. Hell, there was just so much filler in the past few years that it just felt ridiculous. Also, most of Oden”s retainers have shit design or shit coloring scheme. Even the dramatic portions of the arc doesn’t make me feel anything,

>missing the point in a children's manga this badly
maybe you guys need to read material for 5 year olds instead of 10 year olds

>read manga about pirates
>they never do pirate shit
>hardly ever on their fucking boat
Seriously One Piece is the shittiest pirate manga when it comes to actual pirates.

Only real answer.

>At least half the threads have people complaining and calling it shit.
That's just Zig Forums being Zig Forums, but they have a point
>Can someone explain why you guys hate Wano so bad? Is it cause you don't like Samurai?
Because it's nearing 100 chapters and it's just now getting to the final battle, which we have no idea how long it will be. The pacing is just terrible.
>Still needs its Bir D. Cage moment, though.
That might just be that floor videogame shit introduced last chapter.

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Based. Oda refuse to grow up

>It's where Seastone Comes from
>we knew this
We didn't, it was revealed by Hawkins. Before that it was explained in Skypeia that the same mineral that causes seastone also causes sky islands to exist when it gets knocked into the air by knock up streams.

that's the nature of storytelling

What you don't like Shinobu being so incompetent she nearly got Nami killed twice and nearly forced one of the most useful members of the SHA out of the group?
Like legit I still think she should have been the traitor. It would have made so much sense given how inept she came off as. But no, she's just THAT bad.

This

You should have realized that when the crew didn't even have a helmsman until 20 years in.

I didn't like it as it was coming out but it has a lot of great adventure arc qualities and the Strawhats actually being the main focus. Really the only bad part of it is Hodi and his goobers being trash.

>Prison school
Why you doing this to the guy, do you just want to make people suffer.