Are we fucked?

let me clear this up right away: I understand that more skills=more money=better quality of life. but what if most of america's jobs turns into low skilled jobs because of automation and the fact we are turning into a service based economy?

So before covid around 40% of US workers didn't earn enough to afford a one-bedroom apartment. No doubt that over time that number will go up given we are turning into a service based economy (where wages remain low because most service jobs only take days-weeks of training so anyone can learn them.) What happens when we reach 50% 60% 70%+ Is it going to be the norm to accept 3/4ths of the workforce is dependent on family or government to keep a roof over their head? Something has got to give right? I guess what I'm trying to say is where does the buck stop? how many workers are gong to have to be dependents before we do something about it? we can't have a nation where 80% of the population can't afford an apartment, what the fuck is going to happen

Are we going to have an endless supply of uber drivers and starbucks baristas running our nation?

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Are you fucking stupid?

Automation is for low skilled jobs.

If your job relies on showing up, being on time, and following orders then you are at risk of being automated.

It isn't fucking "turn into low jobs cause of automation."

It's the elimination of the stupid jobs for the stupid people, and we should eliminate those stupid people through forced sterlization, gassing, etc and give away free abortions, mifeprestone and sex aids to prevent overpopulation.

Hell, USA should enact a one child per family act cause hell, we need it.

More intelligent, higher wage earners == lower child birth rate.

Lower intelligence, lower salary earners = more mouths to feed, more sexy time.

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Service economy is good, we reduce the need for capital equipment and dependence on foreign imports like latex, rubber, etc for our economy, our might and power come from intelligence, branding, Intellectual property and RIGHTS such as land ownership.

God damn user, you are stupid.

No, we're going to have more people in the streets bitching they have no work, and an immediately influx of less uber drivers and bariastas because it is cheaper to hire a human *for* now then to automate, either because the workflow is complicated or impossible.

covid made it clear to me that the economy can thrive with 15%+ unemployment. The jobs that were lost weren't important anyway.

>the current american economy is thriving

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Doing it by state is retarded because there are parts of NY where a 1 bedroom is $500 and parts where it's $2000

people like this i guarantee work at companies like mine.

theyll even run competent workers into the ground.

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its meant to be a general outline user. My state is fucked like that too. Cities are $1600 for a one-bedroom, suburbs are about $1,000, one bedroom rents inside houses are about $800

You should limit yourself to 1 child, cuckold faggot

>The jobs that were lost weren't important anyway.

Debatable, if you're willing to put up with this lockdown life with no live entertainment or gatherings or nightlife, I certainly am not. But sure, society didnt collapse without them

No, real. Maybe get an education in statistics or economics faggot.

Pull up birth rates, sort by minority, sort by metropolition area (e.g. seattle tacoma, san fran bay compared to fucking shit tier areas.)

You'll see economic data based on average job, rent, family unit size, racial background/identity, and you can see for yourself.

Holy fuck you Zig Forums tards are fucking idiots.

atleast Zig Forums is more intelligent.

shit take. this is how countries get assraped. imagine not making anything yourself, outsourcing production until a country like china can hold you by the balls because you can't even make any fucking masks for your doctors. the parts in your high tech fighter jet helmets are made in 100 different countries (also happened).

you have a naive, sick worldview. you should sterilize yourself first.

>Hell, USA should enact a one child per family act cause hell, we need it.
you have zero understanding of how the US economy works.

Geez, if only some faggots haven't been going "money printer go BRRRRRRRRRRRRR"

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Glad I live in a state where my 15 an hour wage slaving let's me live instead of just survive

it looks like the stupid one is someone else. have you heard of AI? Bunch of high skilled jobs are getting automated as we speak. looks like you too be will be left behind with that mindset

If we incentivize moving manufacturing to Mexico and other brown people countries would that help? It's closer to home, they have similar wages as China, lower transportation costs, we build up infrastructure in those countries, more people over there have steady employment (less crime, less illegal immigration), land is cheap, the government would welcome it, + they're not communist foreign power
Thoughts?

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It's a game of chicken
Boomers can't let their overleveraged real estate empires collapse so prices must keep going up
Of course wages will not go up to match so this ends up in people becoming homeless drug addicts
But at the same time the country can not be too overrun with homeless drug addicts so at some point there will be a UBI enacted
No one can really say what will happen next

How is it $17 in NH when nobody lives there?

Retard alert

It's going to be like YouTube demonetization. They will supplement a good portion of your income with UBI while you also work your low skilled job. If you step out of line, you'll have your UBI cut and living standard reduced by having to rely more on your meager paying job.

>ubi

Say we get ubi of $1,000 a month. What's to stop landlords from raising rent by $1,000? or even more if there is multiple people living in the house?

I understand some sort of competitiveness will be bred out of this (This landlord only charges 1.5k extra, while this one charges 2k extra) but surely landlords, and everyone else selling shit for that matter will raise prices if a UBI is instituted.

I just don't get it

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Yeah, no it isn't. Every fucking job that automation comes in has been uneducated labor.

>Backoffice paper pushing.
>Welding, spot welding.
>Burger Flipping

Stupid user, you can't outsource a M&A meeting to AI, sure it can run the numbers and present a good opinion/forecast/projection but will never replace ownership.

Just look on netflix, even that shit documentary of chinese guy bringing jobs back to ohio. He hires niggers, says they're shit, and now brings in robots.

Have you seen how a car is manufactured?
Have you seen a recent assembly line?

Humans, that are in operations or front line so even fucking nurses are complete shit, unreliable, liability, huge payroll taxes and are an recurring OPEX.

Robots are CapEx and work 24/7, no nigger moments, no laziness. One technician, a few programmers.

tl;dr Learn some real shit about the world anons or go to Zig Forums because for you fuckers on a money board, you're shit at it.

I'd be in Asialand if my visa wasn't cancelled. Living in USA sucks and my income goes 5x farther for 50x better quality of life.

Be thankful I'm on here sharing the wealth of knowledge, akin to the blood of jesus.

Fucking Zig Forums tard, I bet you also hold 0 chain link yet been coming here for the past year.

cuck.

>spending money on useless one time entertainment
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why don't you go check out Zig Forums, it's pretty basic and accepted there and if you ever went to real school, run your own business you'll know quite easily:

1. Managing inventory is annoying.
2. Shrink is there.
3. IP, Training, Rights and labor are in-tangible and forever make more money,
4. Arbitrage is a big deal, it's how retail works - let's ask all those malls, small business retail, shops, strip malls how they're doing now.

My revenue went 4x due to corona, and I don't have to have the liability of state side labor, state side officespcae (though wework is great, free w/ amex platnium), and I carry literrally zero liabilities except payroll for contractors.


tl;dr for a Zig Forums board, many people don't know how biizness works and think shitcoins will make them rich, or rthink automation/AI is out to get the smart people.

Fuck no faggots, I do an IT consultancy, I automate shit, I have offshore labor programmers, architechts and such be my code monkeys.

That is not how "AI" works.

Go to youtube and watch TPS, Toyota Production System.

If the UBI comes out of taxes and not just printed funny money then you won't get inflation, although the demand would shift down Maslow's heirarchy of needs a bit, which is the point.
Rent would probably go up in the short term but competition would mean landlords can't just increase everything by $UBI. Also, if people wanted to live solely or mostly off their UBI while pursuing personal projects or just playing video games, they'd seek out the lowest possible cost of living. You might see expensive cities emptied of a certain class of person while they all revitalize the economies of struggling rural flyover towns for cheap rent.

>If your job relies on showing up, being on time, and following orders then you are at risk of being automated.
Us military on suicide watch

Easy, faggots like you who don't want to work will go to low cost of living areas and build up the economy because you aren't going to wagecuck to survive in a major city metropolition area, such as sea/tac, nyc, miami, chicago, slc, etc


this is called market efficency, if you see free money, demand scales up, arbitrage kicks in and people who are nowork/nowage/cucks will get out of nyc and go to dodge.

why are you so aggressive

WRONG!!!!!!!

>UBI
>Not realizing the USD is going to collapse
>Might as well buy paper at Walmart

this is the rare instance when # go up is bad

He has some good takes, and this is a pretty good thread in general

bro its not like coding takes god-tier skill or understanding, just most people are priced out and also want to avoid MASSIVE PRICKS such as yourself

No conjugal visits in his self made prison.
Posting and quoting from JR College business books and Econ 101 books.
Maybe there's a girl out there who will hold her nose and close her eyes and give'em a chance.
Maybe??