How powerful was him?

>Like a third of the akatsuki were weak as shit

You only say this because they were either nerfed OR lost because plot armor. Even the “weakest” Akatsuki was Op as fuck.

Anybody with two borrowed Sharingan for both Kamui at once would be ridiculous cheese-tier broken, even Sakura. Kakashi didn't even have the Hashirama steroids that allowed Obito to spam the 50% of his full power he was allowed to use, and it still immediately rocketed him up to bullying Kaguya level

>as well as all the Pains one on one.
Excpet for the Shinra Tensei Pain
>he could definitely take out the likes of Hidan
With prep work? probably
>Sasori
Hell no Sasori is too broken and has 100 puppets, plus the Kage's OP sand

>Sometimes kakashi can go all day and other times he gets tuckered out after a single Chidori
Tell me one time that happened

Why was perfect Kamui so op?
>literally untouchably 100% of the time
>can destroy any other people by just looking at them
>can send anyone to cube space by just touching them

>gaiden KEKashi
Entry jonin tier. Got mogged by literal who jobber with kagebunshin
>Anbu KEKashi
Elite jonin, possibly borderline Kage material just barely though. Above his part 1 self
>part 1 KEKashi
Below his anbu self. Still elite jonin above Asuma. Around base Guy level
>kazekage arc
Entry Kage level, still below any actual Kage
>immortal duo / FRS arc
Low Kage
>Pain arc KEKashi
Borderline mid Kage, still below 6th gate Guy. Got mogged by 2 paths who were initially going for intel even with backups.
>War arc KEKashi (no kurama buff)
Solid Mid Kage, on par with 6th gate guy even without kamui.
>DMS KEKashi
Absolutely bullshit hax, above Hashirama level. But still would get outlasted and countered by rikudo Naruto, Sasuke and Juubi Madara.

Who is the weakest Akatsuki? Sasori right?

>Excpet for the Shinra Tensei Pain
>kamui
>win

Yes, that happened only once in the first arc of Part 2. You know, when he was a newbie with kamui

>got praised by Deidara that he's stronger than him
>weakest

Remember when he could only use chidori once or twice a day

When did he say that? Deidara could fucking nuke him

Hidan

how weak was Hokage Kakashi? Is not he like a no sharingan Sasuke?

Zetsu

>Implying Pain will stay in still waiting to be sucked

He can potentially kill anyone in the series provided he tastes their blood.

did you miss how fast kamui was when kakashi was fighting obito along naruto and gai? Even Obito didnt saw it coming

Kamui is the most broken ability in the series. How the fuck did a scrub like Obito get it?

Konan. She’s a completely pointless character.

He develops Shiden later which allows him to pull all kind fo crazy shit similar to Sasuke Chidori's variations. But yeah, Hokage Kakashi is still weak as fuck

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He was the strongest ninja at konoha besides naruto at the time. No one else could have take the rol

That was Sasuke when he first learned it. Kakashi said he was good for 4 a day back in part 1.

I believe that was thanks to Kurama's power up

it was before that

>4 a day
That’s like 1/4 the Chidori he was using in Shippuden

He's actually got a bit more endurance since the Sharingan isn't draining his chakra and developed a new jutsu equal to Chidori that doesn't require him to use the Sharingan to compensate, which is basically all he even used the Sharingan for besides Kamui and those 1000 unused jutsus we never see. So basically he loses Kamui in exchanged for a superior signature move and more HP/MP. About the same ultimately

when did you saw it use more than 4?

Still below Tsunade, which makes him the weakest hokage ever.

>he could definitely take out the likes of Hidan
If they put Hidan and Kakashi in a colosseum to kill each other then Hidan would definitely come out on top

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Lmao
He vs Pain
He vs Obito
Ninja war in general

We don't know how powerful Kamui actually is, Obito could spam it non stop thanks to white Zetsu, which is just a bunch of Hashirama cells, and Kakashi, not being an Uchiha, is not able to freely use it

>He vs Pain
he used like 2 + kamui
>He vs Obito
Naruto kurama buff
>Ninja war in general
kurama buff again and never used it more than 4 time bore that

Hidan would be so much more busted if he hadn't been a brainlet. The fact that he even allowed them to figure out how his bullshit works was ridiculous

>filler

>Kamui is the most broken ability in the series. How the fuck did a scrub like Obito get it?
because the hyuga faggot with the evil windmill tatooed on his forehead was right
>tailed beast is the most broken ability in the series. How the fuck did a scrub like Naruto get it?
>Sage mode is the most broken ability in the series. How the fuck did a scrub like Naruto get it?
>Shadow clone is the most broken ability in the series. How the fuck did a scrub like Naruto get it?

The very same Deidara who doesn't want to admit that Itachi is above him.

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Kakashi was getting absolutely REKT by Kakashi

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Classic Kakashi: top jounin
BoS Kakashi: Low Kage tier
WA Kakashi: Mid Kage tier

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Kakashi's strength is heavily plot-dependent and is easily the most disappointing aspect of his character due to how inconsistent the power-scaling in Naruto is anyway.

By lore and "showings", he is the poster-child for what prodigious work ethic and latent talent can achieve. If Itachi is a prodigy then Kakashi is certainly gifted. Forget about his inherited magic eye and alleged 1000-copied jutsu and consider this:
>took care of himself since age 5 after his father committed suicide
>became a chunin at age 6
>becomes a jonin at age 12
>pioneered his very own A-tier jutsu when he was in the same age bracket as Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura at the very beginning of the series
>joins Anbu Black Ops, becomes a squad leader (same squad Itachi himself would later become a member of)
>knows high-level sealing techniques (curse mark sealing)
>high-level taijutsu user, even without undergoing the same training as Guy
>can play 4D-chess with most of the other big names in combat

He is, without even factoring in his sharingan, what Naruto should have become if Kishimoto wasn't burned out by the demands of a fast-paced industry. With the addition of the eye, he obviously has a tremendous advantage over 99.9% of the rest of the Naruto-verse, but he wasn't too far off that mark to begin with.

I'd put him in the top 20 "most powerful" on the principle that he is shown to be smarter than most characters and is the most well-rounded character in the entire series in terms of abilities, even without sharingan.

If by the end of naruto it was possible to crate new arms using cells why didnt they never fixed gai leg?

Not Kakuzu, nor Orochimaru, nor Naurot, nor any of the Pain paths, nor water boy...

*Hidan*

Kakashi is not powerful. He's just smart as fuck and can come with some crazy shit with what he has

Kakashi was pretty much fighting against enemies there. Hidan was the least of his worries.

>nor Naruto

Why?

agaisnt 4 enemies*

Kakashi could have taken Hidan by himself, I'm certain of it

The only thing he has to do is not get hit by Hidan's slow-ass scythe, and the sharingan and his speed would allow him to do that

Could Naruto defeat Deidara during this part of the manga? I’d say no way

Oh this is before we see deidara at full power, that means nothing. Just like when Kisame said Jiraiya could beat him which is bullshit

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Naruto knew jackshit on both Deidara and Sasori while Deidara had general idea how strong Sasori was.

>Kakashi could have taken Hidan by himself, I'm certain of it

Hidan was pretty much giving Sharingan Kakashi a fight. He is pretty Op at speed and Taijutsu.

why are you fags using anime filler as proof? He barely fight Hidan in the manga

I think the most well rounded ninja would be someone like Jirayja or Orochimaru, not because of their strenght, but because they have the most varied arsenal. We see them use taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu against fairly matched opponents, and said opponents have to strugle to outperform them, granted they use just a couple of genjutsu, but is way more than what we see most characters are capable of doing

Was Itachi in Shippuden retconned into being more powerful in Shippuden than in original Naruto?

I'm not using anime filler. I said Hidan's only method of attack is his scythe, and he admits his attacks are "the slowest in Akatsuki"

Asuma was able to dodge the scythe almost entirely. Kakashi with Sharingan would never get knicked by it.

I don't see a single way Kakashi loses to Hidan in a pure 1 on 1