He never should have gotten powers.
When I first began watching this show, I thought it was a cool idea to have a powerless protagonist in a setting full of superpowered heroes, who tries to beat the odds and is determined to become a hero through hard work and strategy despite having no super power. It establishes early on that, if you aren't born with a quirk, you will never be able to acquire one, it's all genetic.
My entire time watching the first two episodes, I was thinking,
>This could be a pretty unique spin on superhero stories by having the main character be powerless and have to cleverly outsmart and out skill villains in order to succeed as a hero. I just hope they don't make some bullshit asspull where it turns out he actually can get powers, especially if it turns out to be super strength yet again.
And that's exactly what happened, ruining the potentially interesting concept and making him just another generic shonen protagonist.
He never should have gotten powers
So you want him to be Batman without any of the money, influence and resources Bruce Wayne has. At most, if Deku remained quirkless he could take down street level thugs. He would immediately die against any of the actual villains he's faced in the series.
that would've been a dumb idea desu
Yes, MHA is shit but you knew that before you even watched the series.
should have been mirio, don't @ me
All the heroes that don't have superpowers are either filthy rich or have been training since very young. It's impossible for Izuku to get at the baseline needed for a quirkless hero to be accepted in UA in one year
People WANT generic shonen protagonists. Tanjirou from Demon Slayer is as generic as you can get, and he's a great character. Shouldn't you be ruining Star Wars, Rian Johnson?
You're retarded
so go write a story about a nopowerz hero instead of seething in impotent malaise on a turkmekistani club sandwich engravings forum
If you genuinely thought Deku wasn't going to get a quirk you're a retard
Does this guy understand the whole setting is a quirked world that gains true peace from All Might, a formally quirkless person, and this guy is handing over his power to someone who must maintain the risks of it and to maintain the order of society? You can complain that they didn’t do anything interesting in how the quirkless or the people with weak quirks don’t play an interesting role in society, such as establishing gadgets that gets the upper hand over the most quirks, or that the fucking mutants are barely relevant to the story’s politics. However, complaining that Deku isn’t Batman and is instead thrown into the challenge of wielding a great power that comes with great responsibility is simply stupid.
Tanjirou is much worse than Deku.
This is always the argument, but look at Eraserhead. He's essentially powerless, in a way, but with the ability to deactivate *most* quirks, but for the most part his quirk is just an equalizer, but his main way of fighting is by being a skilled hand-to-hand combatant, along with having a tool (the ropes he wears). Many characters in MHA have pretty weak or situational powers that don't put them far above a quirkless person, and they often have to use gadgets to make their quirk actually usable for combat. So it's not that far fetched that a quirkless person could actually be a hero.
>so you want him to be Batman without any of the money, influence and resources Bruce Wayne has
In the original one-off pilot manga, the main character was quirkless and worked at a superhero gadget factory, where he stole gadgets and used them to become a hero. So the author originally intended for that concept, but changed it so he would get powers instead, for whatever reason. I speculate it was because a generic super strength protagonist is easier to write for and doesn't require as much thought. Which is why all of Midoriya's fights devolve into punching things really hard.
It's also shown early on that he keeps notes on every hero, and carefully analyzes their abilities. I thought this would lead to him being a master strategist and being able to figure out enemy weaknesses, and strategize on how to defeat them.
It would be harder to pull off, but at least it would be more fresh and original.
Also that idea would not be a ripoff of Batman because most of the characters in Batman do not have powers. Batman is not a story about a powerless man struggling to become a superhero in a world filled with people who were born with superhuman abilities.
Here you go
They look similar.
best boy
he's not batman. He's spiderman and superman
so you want raildex sans dragon shit
>This could be a pretty unique spin on superhero stories by having the main character be powerless and have to cleverly outsmart and out skill villains in order to succeed as a hero
Batman?
Eraserhead's got probably one of the top 5 quirks in the series. The fact that he's able to put (most of) his enemies on an even field is something quirkless Deku could never do, no matter how many gadgets he has. I of course would LIKE to see something like that in the series maybe not for Deku but as a side character or something, but I think with how much people already complain about asspulls in MHA that there is no way quirkless gadget Deku wouldn't be exponentially worse in this regard.
>but look at Eraserhead. He's essentially powerless, in a way, but with the ability to deactivate *most* quirks, but for the most part his quirk is just an equalizer
> "just a equalizer"
> Just
Do Quirklets really?
The funny thing about everyone saying this would just be a ripoff of Batman, is that I could just as easily say he's currently just a ripoff of Superman or one of the other hundreds of protagonists with super strength. You have to at least admit it would be more interesting and more fresh than yet another super strength MC
That would make you retarded, so you shouldn't say that.
Not an argument
People would like super strength more if the character still had to use it intelligently. Think about fighting games and how the S tiers are broken, are hard to use properly, and still require mind games to perform the craziest shit.
HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN WHAT HEROS CAN DO??
HAHAHHAHAHAHA GOOD FUCKING LUCK FIGHTING THIS AS A NO-POWER HAHAHHA WHAT A DUMB IDEA HAH YOU RETARD HAHHAHA
Couldn’t you just use a gun to quickly take the guy out before he unleashes the ice berg? There should be a significant portion of lag to create something this big.
How didn’t UA get sued for this?
Honestly I think Deku's done a pretty decent job using his super strength intelligently. People like to meme about "just punch harder" but why wouldn't he use his strongest move as a finisher?
Before Full Cowl, Deku flicked with his fingers to minimize the damage to his body. He's mixed in kicks to his arsenal, he still uses finger flicks to create air blasts while continuing to lessen the strain on his arms. Even in his kicks he can fire off air blasts now, he used it way at the beginning of the shiggy fight to stop the destruction wave (I think? It's been a while since that chapter.) He's varied the strength of his punches, only increasing the percentage on impact to minimize the amount of time he needs to use higher power levels.
>Get into a fight
>just shoot them lol
Why are Americans so fucking stupid
Cunt he made that in half a second your bullshit guns aren't going to do shit. This is also se tin Japan where they dont have them. FUCK you are dumb in like 15 different ways
100% sure this man would be a worthy bearer of One for All
Yeah, that would be better than what we get where all of his fights come down to punching really hard and power levels.
I still prefer the concept of a powerless main character having to surpass his inherent limitations and beat impossible odds to fulfill his dreams of being a hero, because there is much more meaning and purpose in a story like that.
Instead of the story being about someone overcoming adversity and unfair disadvantages to accomplish something great, we just have a story about a kid who has no hope of being a hero until superman gives him powers thanks to plot contrivance. So what if he never happened to meet All Might, he would have just given up and never bothered trying to be a hero?
That's not an emotionally compelling story to me, it's devoid of purpose.
There is just not enough mind games. In All Might vs AFO, All Might did a fake out punch and AFO blocked it, leaving him open for All Might’s actual punch. That’s the kind of stuff with hype.
> don't @ me
Go back faggot
This is a dumb post, Aizawa is able to take a guy who could disintegrate a city, his quirk is really powerful and more than evens the playing field, a quirkless person could never compete in aizawa's place And to the point of situational powers, these people have the ability to also train their body and fights with gagdets that can also compensate for their powers. A person with limit range acid attacks with the same physicals as another would have an unyielding advantage even though their quirks may be weak, and quirks themselves grow stronger with use, so weak quirks can get better. The reason for changing to raw super strength is too avoid being batman, making him a gadget fighter would contrive the story into being circumstantial bullshit. How would a gadgeteer fight against shoto, or iida or bakugo, the bullshit in creating a scenerio would have to take precedent over every fight into forcing him into using deus ex machina or writing his character as incomptetant in order to lose to a guy with what, a grapple hook, knuckles, smoke bombs. But, he keeps notes on famous heroes, how would that help with villains, who may not always be in the system and will attack before he can take the notes. This would just revolve into the retard smart character actually having omnicience in figuring out every opponents quirk long enough to conveniently have the tools ready to specifically counter his unique power, before he gets fried. Him just having raw super strength just makes more sense, and doesn't necessarily mean he loses a strategic sense in some scenarios. There is nothing fresh and original, this is just batman, daredevil and the many non-powered heroes that exist in capeshit.
Removing your opponents abilities, that they base their fighting style around, is the move bullshit overpowered ability. It's an I win button, and it's also a hack author staple when they start with a powerless protaganist in a powerful setting so I'm happy MHA didn't go that route.
Also, gadgets are for nerds. I prefer the vanilla shounen route of super strength that you determination to master. Vanilla is the default flavor for a reason.
I think the Gentle fight is the best fight in the series because Deku actually does a lot of creative things because of the limitations Gentle's quirk forced on him. Would be cool to see more of that stuff but right now the current situation really doesn't give much opportunity for it.
nope, having a cripple beat up everyone in the world isn't a testament to the strength of the cripple but to the weakness of everyone else. This is the stupidity of the talented vs the non-talented, the implication that someone non-talented can overcome most or really any obstacles simply by working hard relies on the idea of everyone else refusing to match him. Sure if Deku trained he may be able to one up Bakugo once, but there is nothing preventing bakugo from adopting his methods and combing that with his own abilities. The illusion of the everyman vs the chosen is that the everyman is always given something to overcompensate, whether it be will power or intelligence or other bullshit that even the middling echelons of society should be able to grasp. If deku was quirkless, the only real way he would remain intelligent would really on him having some other form of innate advantage, like somehow being smarter than everyone around him and by being more 'determine' to overcome even though everyone else should.
Half a second? No. That’s just the moment when the blast comes out. Shoto still needs to form and pose to unleash it. Getting close to him or interrupting him with a bullet will fuck this up.
They wouldn't have to asspull gadgets if the author were clever enough to write interesting fights, he'd just have to use a limited array of preestablished tools and fighting moves in clever ways while finding a way to exploit enemy weaknesses.
Yeah this is the other main argument from MHA fanboys, that all of the other characters are too powerful for a quirkless person to compete. But the author didn't necessarily have to make so many super epic 2 million power level characters, it could have been a more grounded supers setting where characters with city-destroying power levels were more rare. Why would the main character necessarily have to be able to compete with the most powerful characters in direct, unarmed combat? It would be more interesting to see a story about a guy who is outmatched in raw power by many other characters, and has to find a way to circumvent and compensate for his own disadvantages, rather than just being handed the best power thanks to a plot contrivance.