What was it with the "extreme pacifist with dark past" trope in the 90s?

What was it with the "extreme pacifist with dark past" trope in the 90s?

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Western comics showed it was an easy and endless opportunity to create high stakes and drive inner conflict all while providing a blatantly idiot-proof moral high-ground to uphold. Plus a lot of authors think it's cool and heroic to have a super strong character that you know would be impossible if they didn't hold back all the time 'cause they're nice.

The problem is, it's not very relatable. Which is why Rape-Man is the best hero in 90s anime: He's the most relatable.

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>impossible
unbeatable. Don't know how that happened.

>it's not very relatable
Depends on the backstory. Kenshin's philosophy is perfectly relatable once you find out his past.

Everybody was depressed on the 90s

Yeah, Vash's pacifism would never in a thousand years not result in his immediate death if he wasn't a pseudo angel capable of shooting 50 people in non lethal zones with a six bullet gun in less a minute

>Kenshin
I've seen the OVA and I loved it. Is the anime worth watching or is it mostly dumb filler?

Kenshin actually has a legitimate excuse for it though, Vash was just a pansy.

You'll probably be sorely disappointed by the anime if you watched Trust and Betrayal first.

The anime is mostly dumb filler and makes a lot of really bad changes to the story. Read the manga. Official scans if you can find them, as the fan translations are really shit

They Kyoto arc of the anime is fantastic. The first arc has some growing pains and suffers from some weird decisions made in the adaptation process, presumably to market the series to a younger audience or something. Aside from the filler, it's not terrible, but just okay. Everything else is filler that ranges from "passable" to "what the fuck is this shit?"

I'd recommend reading the manga until after the fight with Aoshi, then switch to the anime and watch from episode 28.

Vash literally destroyed an entire city because he couldn't control himself

It's not a 90's trope, it's a recurring theme in anime.
Vash operates from a different perspective of being superhuman. Vash killing humans would be no different from humans killing ants.

The manga is better

There was some emofaggotry but I wouldn't say that everyone was depressed. There was lots of rad shit too. Not like now when everyone is addicted to being angry victims in eternal revolt

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I understand the spirit of what you're saying but I kill ants for invading my kitchen looking for scraps or tiny spills; I can't imagine the bloody rampage I'd go on if they went out of their way to try to kill people and attacked me well enough to leave horrible scars all over my body.

Vash in the anime basically lost his world view and moved on by the end of it to a new one.
Dude had a mindset of a child in a world not set in a kids TV show.
First season sure but by the second season every time he spared a life it would cause more lives to end and whole city's to destroyed.
Its like what happens if you bring a kids tv show protagonist into a girtty dark world that grinds down his moral code.

Vash got attached to humanity and so didn't want to hurt anyone even if they deserved it from our perspective. Plus what others said about being a lot more powerful than humans. It's like those Buddhists that try not to harm any form of life.

Pretty much. I was sorely disappointed in Trust and Betrayal since I read the manga first.

Fuck yeah it is.

vash spent a LOT of his time trying to keep humans from hurting each other, too. like aggressively militantly pacifist. humanity had to survive as a memorial of rem though, like a pet.

the Trigun anime aged fucking horribly, and no I am not baiting, try looking at it without rose tinted goggles, the humour is awful, the visuals are terrible, the characters are annoying, overall it's not good even if it was your first anime

And that might be part of the message of Trigun. Knives believed that humans were an irredeemable pest, but Vash looked at their positive achievements and traits and decided to let them live.
The scars are mostly because of Vash uncompromisingly trying to save people rather than people attacking him. And Vash himself is such a strange being that humans naturally are afraid and hostile towards him. Knives didn't have those scars because he never decided to try and live and meddle with humanity.

So you're saying this world ISN'T made of Love and Peace?

i always liked the pretty cliched character designs and gun porn and the OST is badass

Imagine if Anng form atlab didn't get a get out of jail free card and had to kill the fire lord or let him live.
Then he lets him live and it starts a massive war again that kills millions and burns most of the earth kingdom up because Anng was to much of a child to make the hard choices that comprise his own morality.
That's basically trigun but vash changes his world view by the end.

I enjoyed it, even if the art and animation was inconsistent throughout. Manga is way better though.

The visuals are top tier.

I think that's why in the story we had Wolfwood and later Livio; characters to show that you can still uphold your morals while doing what it takes to survive.

The colours look washed out almost all the time

Yeah, thats part of the setting.
Ever watch a Leone film? Or Ford film?
The drabness to the colors is part of the setting. It gives it a more heavy and stark look.

I can never sympathize with Knives. I like spiders too much. Butterflies are fine too, but spiders are awesome, so, yanno, fuck Millions Knives. Fuckin ficus

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>heavy and stark
Reminds me of Milly

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On the other hand

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