JOJO

>Only the anime is shit, the manga is a very good
I will never understand people who say this about 1:1 adaptations.

Unlike 1, 5 at least has good fights.

The three actually good parts are 2, 7 and 8, so no.

The only people who don't don't like Phantom Blood are people who suffer brain rot from watching so much generic modern shounen that they take everything they're seeing dead serious. It's an absolutely absurd story played straight to the audience. It features extremely exaggerated character archetypes with simple motives that get ridiculous powers.

Part 1 acting all serious is exactly why Part 2 is so great. A contrast is created between the two. Phantom Blood is an ridiculous story played seriously to the audience while Battle Tendency takes everything from PB, builds on it and discards the facade by turning all the crazy bullshit to 11.

this guy gets it seriously since when has jojo ever acted serious

2, 7, 4

Except Phantom blood itself takes itself dead serious and it's laughable. The absurdity isn't even enough to balance it out.
>Part 1 acting all serious is exactly why Part 2 is so great.
Araki didn't make it with taht intention. Part 2 being fun doesn't justify the slog of part1. It's a miserable read regardless of how hard you spin it and probably one of the worst shounen arcs ever.

Also doesn't help that hamon has some of the worst "does whatever the plot needs it to do" moments.

Still better than spin
I fucking hate and don't get spin

retard

Jotaro = most manly character ever.

just like every power system in anime, you dumb brainlet fuck

Most power systems run off plot contrivance, yes, but hamon is especially bad about it at some points.

>Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
silence, pig

like what?

Golden Wind is the worst part.

Only retards think either Part 1 or Johnathan are the worst.

The vampire detecting wineglass, for one. It apparently having different polarities for the scene where they need to get Eisidisi out of Suzy Q without hurting her, which never comes up again, for another.

wtf, I love part 1 now

Switch 4 with 1 and it's based if we're talking about Pirates of the Caribbean, your JoJo taste is shit

How do you look at an angry arch enemy step-brother stabbing his face with an ancient Aztec stone mask while screaming 'I reject my humanity!' in order to become an ice vampire and think "I'm meant to take this completely serious."
How do you look at shit brickhouse English supreme gentleman getting surprise gut-raped by an Italian gigolo's pinky finger and getting magic breathing powers that control water so he can punch through frogs/dislocate his shoulder to get extra punch range while thinking "I am going to take this at face value."
Why would you watch a slum punk with a propeller-bladed bowler derby suddenly turn into the biggest bro who remains 100% loyal to the main man despite not having magic powers or any stake in taking down a vampire lord and tell yourself "The characters need to have more depth and interesting backgrounds, this is a serious story for mature readers."

All while they have the names of legendary rock bands and musicians.

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>Muh terribly written FOTNS rip off is a pearl
>YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!
Ok.

holy baste

It somehow manages to be both ridiculous and boring.

>Oh my Hamon kiss, powering up and semi-mind controlling a woman

(You) never read fotns faggot.

I knew you were that retarded. How many manipulator type characters do you think exists in anime you daft cunt. Even uses the most harmless example possible. kys

>And somehow shoving a live pigeon down her throat without hurting either of them

It's boring and a slog.

>narratively trash
well if you mean by bruford and whatever his name was, yeah those really dragged down the pacing of PB.
> more developed than Jonathan, Speedwagon and Dio combined.
It's not about character development. You're comparing apples to oranges. Jonathan and Dio were remembered because of their constant fighting and established characters.
Speedwagon was just a regular dude there along for the ride.
Meanwhile Koichi as a character: he had a girlfriend, is friends with Josuke and has a stand that evolves.

>in order to become an ice vampire and think "I'm meant to take this completely serious."
Because that's how Araki wrote it, he's taking it seriously. There are crazier stuff in more serious shounen as well so it's not an excuse, and not being serious is not an excuse for awful and boring writing.
The retarded ass pulls, Speed wagon explaining everything, the times when it tries to be emotional, all are played seriously. Other Jojo parts also have these but at least the insanity kind of balances it out. Part 1 is just a slightly weirder FOTNS.
You can tell Araki seriously wanted to make you feel something for the Brutus and Tarkus fight but it fell flat, and Zeppeli's death was one of the lamest and laughable deaths I've ever seen in any shounen and Araki actually expects you to care.
He was just learning the ropes then, it's obvious, he gets better in later parts.
Something like Gintama has far crazier concepts but it still makes you feel something when it actually gets serious.

You're retarded. We're not discussing if Hamon can do what other power systems can. We're talking about how "Breathing technique that lets you harness the power of the sun" allows for that kinda thing. Maybe learn to read instead of sucking your own dick all day

How do you go from "basically ki, but it requires you to be able to breathe and is most effective against vampires" to mind control kisses and the ol' "pigeon down the throat" trick?