Jiraiya the Gallant is a better written and executed arc than Land of Waves. And overall the peak of Naruto...

>d*mon slay*r
Fuck off, underage retard.
Correct.

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Die.

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Pain assault was great

Yeah, pretty much.
It has the most built up to fight in the series (Sasuke vs Itachi), the most tactical one (Jiraya vs Pain) and the most hype one (Naruto vs Pain). It was when I was enjoying the series the most, with nonstop big moments and momentum.

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Chunin exam was the best arc

>the only big 3 to be cancelled
>better than basedruto?
lmao

>Jiraiya the Gallant is a better written and executed arc than Land of Waves
No one disagrees with this.

The best parts of Naruto are when Jiraya is involved, when he died the series took a huge nosedive in quality, his relationship with Naruto was key and much more relevant than his connection to Sakura, Kakashi or Sasuke even though the writer tried hard to force it.

>Was the arc where Naruto became the prophesied chosen one.
It may be annoying in retrospective, but I didn't see anything bad when that happened in the arc.
>Naruto mastering sage mode in a couple of weeks when Jiraiya couldn’t even master it in his entire life.
This is shit, I agree with you.
>The entire supporting cast is fucking useless.
That's a negative aspect, but not a rare one in Naruto. It's not really the arc's fault, but the series' as a whole
>Suddenly acting like Hinata is important to Naruto when she was a neglected side character the entire series.
The idea was good, but the execution was mediocre. Of course she (and everyone else for that matter) needed more screentime
>The start of Naruto having big dumb DBZ battles.
That fight had strategy, with Naruto deciphering Pain's shockwave cooldown and leaving clones in the frog sanctuary to get chakra boosts. It was like DBZ's Goku vs Freeza, but it wasn't really dumb, in my opinion at least
>Talk no Jutsu removing a villain’s entire world view.
The same with Hinata, the idea was good, given how Pain and Naruto had a connection thuought Jiraiya, but his change of mind was just too abrupt.
>Pain reviving the entire village with a colossal asspull.
Not only was a colossal asspull, it also makes of Nagato a more sympathetic character, which makes it easier for Naruto to forgive

>Jiraiya the Gallant is [headcanon]
nah

>IN ATTENDANCE, THE SIX PATHS OF PAIN

Is this the most kino ENTER in the history of manga?

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>Was the arc where Naruto became the prophesied chosen one.
And the prophecy was both broken and fulfilled within the same arc by Nagato and Naruto. The point was that both of them helped shape the path to the future.
>Naruto mastering sage mode in a couple of weeks when Jiraiya couldn’t even master it in his entire life.
And?
>The entire supporting cast is fucking useless.
Yes, the point is that it's Naruto getting over his hatred, not the cast fighting just because it'd be fun. If you want that, watch the anime.
>Suddenly acting like Hinata is important to Naruto when she was a neglected side character the entire series.
It ties into core ideas of the arc and Hinata wanting to fuck Naruto was there since her introduction.
>The start of Naruto having big dumb DBZ battles.
Do you not remember the Sasuke Retrieval arc? Or the Kaiju battle at the end of Chuunin Exams?
>Talk no Jutsu removing a villain’s entire world view.
Spee D. Reader
>Pain reviving the entire village with a colossal asspull.
One legitimate point and the only relevant character he revived was Kakashi

I loved the noir feel to this arc. No other arc in naruto felt quite like this one.

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Surprisingly the most seasoned and stealthy spy of all 5 great ninja villages is the most eccentric ninja at the time. I like it.

this section is ridiculously stacked with the best moments of the entire series. No one would ever think that it would be followed by kage summit and chore shitty war arc.

To be fair, I liked the kage summit arc a lot. You're a fucking liar if you say you didn't have a blast watching that shit show. The war arc is inexcusable though and unlike the five kage summit arc, is the complete opposite of fun.

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>Bleachtards are back
Oh boy, entertainment!

Bleach is shit and een worse than Narutom though.

>Jiraiya had 1(ONE/SINGLE/UNO/UM/ICHI) father moment with Naruto then taught him literally nothing in the timeskip
JOBraiya is a shit character who didn't need to exist.

Sakura was annoying but she made the arc interesting. Sasuke should've killed her to see how Naruto would react here.

>Naruto mastering sage mode in a couple of weeks when Jiraiya couldn’t even master it in his entire life
While this bothered me slightly, its only in retrospective, due to how the war changed power dynamics in the show.
Naruto learned the rasengan and rasenshuriken and had the chakra capacity to do sagemode effectively. Jiraiya started as a kid and had no reserves to speak of. Given the red markings on his cheeks, and his insane strength (second only to Tsunade in feats) he likely learned to passively absorb Nature Energy, and simply had a hard time with keeping a full capacity Sagemode going.
Naruto trained day in and day out for 2 weeks and using 3-4 clones every hour, which is exponential learning due to the clones multiplying knowledge every time they're made and dispelled after training. which is roughly 6-7 weeks of training - i.e. 2 months of nonstop training.

reposting
A Naruto without Jiraiya's ninja training would have: *no summoning giant Yakuza toads that smoke tobacco. *no rasengan. *wouldn't have the overall stat upgrade that post time-skip Naruto had. (the one that let him fight with S-rankers without getting stomped like any anbu to ever anbu.) *The chakra control to even begin to try and master the rasenshuriken.

Part 1 Naruto was a high chunin level kid if we consider that everyone trying to take the chunin exam was high genin-low chunin.

Part 1 Naruto using Kurama's chakra would be able to take on most low to mid jounin that aren't right out elite, if we use Zabuza as a template for A-Rank, he can give a mid difficulty fight. (probably won't win.)

The Naruto that came back from the training trip, had two instances of out-maneuvering Kakashi, (ch 246 pg. 7 to 8) note: henged clone into a weapon too (ch 253 pg. 9 to 11 - he was behind Kakashi, got in front of him, blocked the attack with a shadow clone and launched his own simultaneously, also somehow took his bag off, though Kakashi's sharingan is covered here) I'm not saying that he's faster than Kakashi but the fact that he can stand the same ground as the guy speaks of his improvement because I can't see pre-time skip Naruto doing that.

Then there's his use of kyuubi chakra he can use three times the amount that was his cap in part 1, which would be a brief fight with one tail, he was far more skillful with it too. Using it to buff up his speed (ch 266 pg.12, 291 pg. 3 to 5) strength (ch 276 pg. 18, ch 277 pg. 2 to 6)

He literally blitz Orochimaru's face off (ch 291, pg. 13) and that's just one tail, he blew up the bridge with a chakra shockwave in (292, pg 9 to 10) this compared to just blowing away a few senbon back in his first time using the kyuubi chakra (ch 28, pg. 9) or Sasuke's fire ball (ch 229 pg. 5) granted that was only a measly chakra shroud.

The best way to say it would be that compared to his first fight with Orochimaru where he got sealed after a brief fight, he's ripping off Orochimaru's limbs (ch 292 pg. 16) That's an improvement.

I'm not even going to get into the four tailed state where no one earlier than maybe Pein would even be able to scratch Naruto who's eating his own bijuu bomb Tom and Jerry style and using the weaponized toon force to get even Orochimaru scared for his life.

Saying that Naruto didn't get stronger because he's using the kyuubi's chakra, isn't exactly fair. It's what he trained for. Orochimaru was only taunting him when he said that Naruto didn't match up to Sasuke here, cause I don't see Sasuke (from that arc) surviving against a four tails Naruto.

Also since Sasuke suppressing Kurama's chakra hasn't been seen since, I'm going to go ahead and say it, Kurama was already pacified by Yamato with mokuton, and no wonder Naruto didn't give too much of a fight, he just went four tails a few hours ago and just recovered from a whole lot of skin-loss, Sakura fainted a couple of times and she only got smacked once.

Also note. Naruto used the rasengan a handful times in Part 1, each time (ch 167 pg. 14-17, ch 175 pg. 13, ch 226 pg. 10-11, 232 pg. 13) that's four times.

If you pay attention to how many panels it takes for Naruto to make the rasengan, you get an idea of time frame, it's almost instant in Part 2 and he can form it while running now, even if he is still using shadow clones, that's an improvement in combat.

Also shadow clones movements are on point, Naruto & Sasuke from the Boruto movie have nothing on clone choreography like in ch 276 pg. 12-15 (Naruto forms a clone for a rasengan, and scares Deidara off he's real goal being getting Gaara's corpse, he destroys the bird, the shadow clone behind him makes two clones to carry the bird's head and lay it on the ground below, all before he even starts falling. Talk about teamwork.)

He chose to die for pride rather than swollow the pride and retreat to fortify the village. Why did he bother with some shitty riddle when he could of given the frogs direct information to pass on?

Then there's the other stuff Naruto could have learned as Jiraiya's apprentice: * advanced stealth (ch 282 pg. 5-7) Tsuande noticed him but she's a kage. *Strategic and tactical thinking, the likes of which he employed agaisnt Kakazu. *Genjutsu Defense, to the point that ITACHI had to strengthen his genjutsu to stop him from breaking it. *Chakra control (the guy mastered sage mode that would be like blending yin, yang & natural energy at 33.3 (recurring) %, which is why it's so hard. *Academy stuff that Naruto needed revision on, which is probably advanced courses if compared to our world. e.g. medic ninjutsu requires advanced bio knowledge then naturally using elements would require you to have advanced knowledge on those elements (like in Full metal alchemist), throwing weapons: physics and trigonometry and the likes. fuinjutsu: computer science like art, with a knowledge on whatever the seal is for e.g. to design a computer that control the environment in a greenhouse you need to have a some knowledge on the plants involved. for if the computer controls how much water a plant gets. *Leadership skills: (ch 352, pg. 14-16) he organized the mission to try and capture Itachi, took charge in the hokage office even. *Running an intelligence gathering network, (ch 356 pg. 12) though this one is more my head canon. *proofreading, beta-ing? (ch 407 pg. 5) *fuinjutsu: like using a scroll like a boss (ch 264 pg. 8), probably creating this clone summoning scroll (ch 433 pg. 6 to 9), expertly using the seal's key (ch 496 pg. 12), creating a new seal to replace Minato's (ch 499 pg. 13-14), sectioning of the kyuubi chakra that he stole (ch 505 pg. 7), using his new seal to do cool things (ch 538 pg. 16-17)

>throat crushed
"why didn't he just pass it on?"

Itachi search to end of Kage summit overall is better than Part one Naruto except chunin exam preliminaries