Was he right?

> All men ... are NOT created equal! Some are born swifter afoot, some with greater beauty, some are born into poverty and others born sick and feeble. Both in birth and upbringing, in sheer scope of ability every human is inherently different; Yes that is why people discriminate against one another, which is why there is struggle, competition and the unfaltering march of progress. Inequality is not wrong, equality is.

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No way he thinks like this considering he is the most powerful/rich person in his universe

You attempt to run a 2 hour marathon. You are unable to. His point is proven. You attempt to dunk the hoop in basketball, but you are unable to even after lots of plyometric training because you are a manlet. His point is proven. You attempt a sex change surgery and yet, you look nothing like an actual female. His point is proven.

Well it's easy to support this kind of statement when you are in a position of power. thought He wanted to do exactly the same kind of jewish tricks the jews from Evangelion tried: everything becoming one.

He was not the only one who was right:
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didn't he try to enforce absolute equality with his secret plan though? The evil emperor thing was a facade

How to cope in life accepting those painful truths especially when you are not in a favorable position? seaching an escape into become the strongest according to raw force? pretty much like in Baki the Grappler?

life learned me something: If you can't make somebody respect yourself by talking to him, using force always fucking work, literally. you acted like a monkey beating the shit out of somebody for stupid reasons but people now respect you like cowards and act like if you won the discussion or if you were right despite of just having beat somebody.

and it's awful because a lot of bastards are admired and hurt good or weak people doing the same.

Well he isn't wrong about people being different in terms of ability, but wealth isn't a genetic advantage, maybe if we saw him do anyting other than mind wipe Lelouch and twiddle his dick he would have more ground to stand on, I'm not sure how competnet he was when he was younger, but Schitzel was doing more for Britannia by the time the series starts. As it stands the nobility in Brittania can coast by doing nothing and be useless as people

Those trips confirm he was right

Yes from this point of view this guy is just an old dude who is now objectively weak and all of his power mostly come from his wealth.

>but wealth isn't a genetic advantage

No but let’s say that you inherited a lot of money from your father of grandfather, because they were successful businessmen. Maybe you didn’t create that wealth yourself, but you technically share genetics with the people who made it, so you are more entitled to that money than anyone else.

If he was right, why did he lose?

>All men ... are NOT created equal!
When the line was written in the DoI, it did not mean that all humans have equal abilities/potential abilities.
>Some are born swifter afoot, some with greater beauty, some are born into poverty and others born sick and feeble
>Both in birth and upbringing, in sheer scope of ability every human is inherently different
Obviously correct.
>Yes that is why people discriminate against one another
To some degree, sure, but nobody would call that type of discrimination bad. People now want to stop unfair forms of discrimination, not discrimination based on merit.
>Inequality is not wrong, equality is.
Unequal abilities makes life interesting and allows for the economy to do as well as it does, but equality in the way most people mean it is not simply wrong.

Righteousness loses all the time.

But he never even stated or implied wealth as a genetic advantage, so nice strawman argument

It's not even age, Charles here is smart but he does fuck all and hell even his old age he's an absolute fucking unit, just having these advantages doesn't mean shit if you don't apply them it's not that he isn't capable it's that he didn't do shit, there is a reason why the final boss was essentially Schnizel. I mean I guess he was busy with his secret plan but that was antithetical to these ideas anyway.

> All men ... are NOT created equal! Some are born swifter afoot, some with greater beauty, some are born into poverty and others born sick and feeble.
>some are born into poverty
Retard

Why was Lelouche such a fucking jobber?

Daily reminder that "all men are created equal" was nothing more or less than a rejection of hereditary nobility.

People are not created equal, but that doesn't justify discrimination. Being strong doesn't give you the right to bully, steal, and rape the weak. Being rich doesn't give you the right to oppress the poor.

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He literally goes on to distinguish birth (aka genetics) from upbringing you fucking moron. In his eyes, two identical twins, one raised in poverty and the other raised in wealth aren’t created equal either.

How does one even go about refuting this? My gut says I don't agree but I really have no argument that he wouldn't be able to rationalize as me coping.

>you are more entitled to that money than anyone else
So everything your ancestors gathered is entirely yours to inherit? Not only the wealth, but also the obligations and the genetic diseases?

Sounds like a load of unstable equilibrium malarkey. As long as your parents/grandparents are alive you do have a say in their affairs, but once they're gone you are on your own.

Like this Agree with the premise that people aren't equal, but disagree with his conclusion.

Lmfao did this anime just parody Trump?

And I'm saying that's retarded if you don't do shit with you're upbrinig you're just a parasite his firstborn kid Odysseus hasn't done shit despite the advantages of his upbringing

Time for a logic lesson! Say it with me kids:
>just because a premise is sound, does not mean any argument following it is also sound

For example
>The sky is blue during the day most of the time, as seen from earth
This premise is true.
>Therefore, we should send all dogs to Jupiter in order to combat the Space Israelis who've occupied rightful Jupiterian land
This, however, does not follow my premise. This is called a "non-sequitur".

Now, let's apply this to what King Chuck (formerly Sneed) is saying.
>Not all people are born with the same set of skills/"gifts"/features/etc.
This is true.
>Therefore, oppression is justified.
This does not follow the premise. The strong MAY be able to oppress the weak. The rich MAY be able to oppress the poor. That does not mean that they OUGHT to. He has not explained why he believes this ought to be, just how it is possible. His argument is, therefore, a non-sequitur.

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>Therefore, oppression is justified
He didn't say that.

This user gets it.

He is the Emperor of a totalitarian racist classist regime, it's blatantly obvious what he means.

Given what happened with Japan it's clearly implied

That sounds like a loser's cope to me.

But then if he asks something like "why?" wtf are you supposed to say.

It isn't. It's just life.

Time for another logic lesson! Just because something is illogical doesn't make it false. Take for example exercise: in order to improve you need to overload. Since that needs to be done, we should always overload to see constant improvements! Perfectly logical, but wrong! CNS burnout happens, and the actual gains are obtained through rest. Exercise just so happens to be the stressor needed for the body to rest and recover from to get stronger. Easy workouts have to be done also, such as is the philosophy if 80/20 running.

To apply to this, Charles may not be logical, bit it does not mean he is wrong.

He's just larping though