Saber is the strongest Servant

Saber is the strongest class (stat wise). Heracles is the strongest servant (5th holy grail war) Gilgamesh has the strongest Noble Phantasm. I am not counting FGO because I don't know shit about it.

>Saber is the strongest class (stat wise)
It is also because the strongest heroes are usually summoned as Saber. I also imagine because swords are more prevalent than other weapons in heroes.
>Arthur and Excalibur
>Roland and Durandal
>El Cid and Tizona (never ever)
>William Wallace and his sword (never ever)

>What does it even mean to be the strongest Servant?
During FSN you can pretty much see how Saber never gets absolutely fucked by anyone in particular, yet her master is a terrible mage. In comparison, you see archer doing normal servant shit while being summoned by Rin. Saber under Rin would have curstomped the holy war.

Yes but can't beat them. Weve had this discussion years ago user!

It means that Fate doesn't have powerlevels and you shouldn't treat it like it's DBZ.

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Until Gil comes out to destroy her

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It means Nasu is a hack that tries to subvert expectations by telling you lies.

>El Cid and Tizona (never ever)
He jobbed fighting Nzambi in Fate Requiem tho...

I am pretty sure he didn't appear in Requiem. Just mentioned being killed. Also I was just checking his bio and he could also be a Rider. He loved his horse so much he asked to be buried with him. Also his horse has a historical name. I am still in awe how many heroes or knights that existed and did things that have become legend exist yet TM chooses to make shitty servants like fucking Shakespeare and other shit. Why?

The more I read about El Cid the more I think TM is retarded. More considering he was real plus has an epic poem and a play made by the french.
>Named sword with a clear hability (make people cower in fear)
>Named horse with his own history (Bavieca)
>A story of a great knight betrayed by his king after forcing said king to swear he didn't kill his brother
>He is such a good and capable knight he inspires people to join him enough to get his own army
>Conquers one of the richest cities in the mediterranean
>Dies of old age
>Gets tied to his horse so his enemies think he is alive for a final win
all this shit plus not counting other spanish sources because I don't speak spanish. Also there are tons of other knights in the poem. ero Bermudez uses Tizona to win a battle for example.

The more I read about El Cid the more I think TM is retarded. More considering he was real plus has an epic poem and a play made by the french.
>Named sword with a clear ability (make people cower in fear)
>Named horse with his own history (Bavieca)
>A story of a great knight betrayed by his king after forcing said king to swear he didn't kill his brother
>He is such a good and capable knight he inspires people to join him enough to get his own army
>Conquers one of the richest cities in the mediterranean
>Dies of old age
>Gets tied to his horse so his enemies think he is alive for a final win
all this shit plus not counting other spanish sources because I don't speak spanish. Also there are tons of other knights in the poem. There is this knight called Pero Bermudez who uses Tizona to win a battle for example. All this sounds like a wasted oportunity.

Gilgamesh is bullshit. But Avalon is even more bullshit.

wasted opportunity is TM 's other name

Type Moon as a suite of creators drives power level people crazy because there is no rule that they will not put forth in one of their stories that they will immediately invalidate, just for the sake of proving that there are, in fact, no rules

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>absolutely fucked by anyone
She gets Shirou's massive Japanese ginger cock twice.

He did appear in Requiem and both his sword is trash

Fate/Requiem vol. 2 summary
El Cid and his Master were participants in the Holy Grail War Tournament as part of Hannibal's team. Unknown to them Hannibal had been turned into a zombie by Nzambi, and he turned on them in the middle of their team battle, beheading both El Cid and his Master

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He was mentioned. Not appeared. Otherwise we would know the class he was summoned with.

Me.
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