UBI = Slavery

Ok guys I'm kind of thinking that if UBI gets distributed in an amount that makes it so no one ever has to worry about money that nation will fall.

I keep hearing arguments that with the expansion of automation and tech that there will be so few jobs that people will need UBI to survive. I get this point but the question is why the fuck would anyone go into those professions?

If I had the option to get let's say 40k a year and do nothing or 150k and work my ass off why would I or anyone choose the ladder? My assumption is that less and less people would go into those professions or keep working and the system would collapse and we'll be back at square one. If it doesn't then we essentially have a well paid slave class that provides for us.

Idk I get the concept and it sounds nice but it just won't work. It just feels like communism lite.

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gibs me dat

>would I or anyone choose the ladder?
>ladder
Because you're a fucking moron so it behooves us to throw you $40k/yr that is created out of thin air anyway to keep you quiet.

ahmed needs his payment

The question is why would you chose an objectively worse life for nicer material goods?

Like I said you're just a well paid slave at that point.

We'll you would getting 40k on top of your 150k not either or.

Isn't the whole concept of UBI that it would only be given to people who don't qualify for Gibs, aka the productive people of society?
Sounds a lot more based than constantly encouraging unemployment.

There's multiple countries were you can get permanent unemployment income and guess what nobody wants to get it and just stay at home because it dooms you to a miserable life.

Also many people dont even do the papers to get the free money because they dont wanna be leeches

We already have UBI for millionares. System is already fucked.

>I get this point but the question is why the fuck would anyone go into those professions?
Because you get money on top of that. The comic you posted is fud against ubi.

If you work hard then you can be a millionaire. If you don't work hard then you're stuck in the lower class, but it's free.

Bribing people with their own money user. Not a great path.

A good democracy requires political accountability, if they pay you they can take it away if you don’t “vote right”

>Like I said you're just a well paid slave at that point.

You're a slave either way. Modern Americans work substantially more than medieval peasants. You only have the illusions of MUH FREEDUMBS.

Holy shit, intelligence on Zig Forums.

Plenty of people would work hard for the 150k because it's more money and some people don't have hobbies, so what else are they gonna do?

Objectively untrue. We have career welfare recipients in America. The only reason more people aren't on it is because the amount is very low.

Bump it up to a comfortable amount and you'll see employment nosedive and everything will fail, setting humanity back.

The thing is it actually would work in an ideal high trust white ethnostate. If all of the available jobs were meaningful work making progress in science, technology, and medicine, and I knew my work was benefiting my people who would appreciate it instead of taking it and spitting in my face, I would happily work instead of doing nothing. And if the lowest people in that society were just autistic white NEETs who wanted to play vidya until they die, I wouldn’t mind supporting their simple lifestyles with my taxes either. In this dystopian hell we live in, none of the high paying work is meaningful and the people who my tax dollars go to are monstrous niggers that shit out 10 more niggers to get more welfare and degrade society in an endless spiral

>We have career welfare recipients in America
Yeah, politicians, the Pentagon, Wall Street.

But anytime we might get a break SOCIALISMSMSMSMSMSMSMSM!

I'm also disgusted by our current start of corporate socialism.

The only thing I'd be ok with is a small welfare system. I think of it more as an insurance policy.

There is some truth to this, like in small nordic nations. The issue is you can't turn America into an ethnostate. We doomed ourselves when our ancestors couldn't pick their own cotton.

“Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.

Socialism is what they called public power.

Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan ‘Down With Socialism’ on the banner of his ‘great crusade,’ that is really not what he means at all.

What he really means is, ‘Down with Progress — down with Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal,’ and ‘down with Harry Truman’s Fair Deal.’ That is what he means”

Regardless ethnostate or not I can't see it lasting more than a generation.

I agree that it also wouldn't work, but you underestimate just how much people need to CONSOOM. There are a lot of people who would gladly voluntarily give up their life just to buy more shit. Their free time is basically worthless to them.

The last 20 years have been shit.

This shit is so easy.

UBI works as long as you get rid of all other social welfare programs. If you want, you can also have diminishing returns past a certain income threshold.

Everything else has to go or be phased out. Social Security. Welfare. EBT. Medicare. Medicaid.

I feel like the majority of Zig Forums r neets and then when someone offers to give them money
>N-NO THE GOVERNMENT CANT GIVE ME MONEY

Reagonimcs.

This is allegedly true but it's talked about as an add on and not a replacement. Also, whats to say they just keep increasing it until it costs more than all those other programs?

>UNITRADE 400 AIRDROP? HAHAHAHAHAHA

Insurance requires you to pay something in a pyramid scheme. Insurance because you breath is welfare, not insurance per se.

Can you believe there are people right now cucking not only themselves but us from getting 1k/month.

How are Americans this fucking retarded I'm malding

Huge marketing stunt, creates life long customers, goes right back into the project, and the team owns 60% and are richer now.

So that’s the benefit for them.