Fuck gambling on shitcoins, get into sales.
>Be me, mid 30s
>Autistic
>In IT sales to large businesses
>Customers are autistic too
>Made over 300k last year
>WFH cos of Muh COVID
>Uncapped commissions, people in my company have made $1m in a year
>it’s easier than you think
If you’re in IT just transition to a junior role working with sales people (either as a BDR or sales support) and you can work your way up.
Don’t worry about being afraid of talking to customer you will get used to it.
Sales is hands down the best way to make money. I tried doing sales for myself and am burnt out now especially with this year.
You sound like a chad among incels OP
Anyone can get into it and learn to talk to customers. Ironically enough the incels would benefit the most because they would learn to talk to people.
Closing a deal is basically the same as convincing a woman to fuck you
Agreed 100%. High ticket sales is orgasmic.
what sales specifically? working in a best buy? b2b sales? I doubt selling chromebooks to kids makes so much money
My buddy made more this year in a summer than I did all year. Should I drop accounting and do that. I hate my job
Good thread op. I'm in the street shitter it support field(don't ask). Got any more advice?
>be me
>work with a bunch of old boomer fucks
>all loser alcoholics who fluff themselves up and try to look successful wearing cost and tie/business suit
>customer walks in
>literally a bunch of jackals start drooling and cackling
>customer looks scared like a trapped zebra
>sales people surround the customers
>can literally see the customers pupils dilate and start running
>sales people smell fear and close the circle
>you wanna buy something? You’re here! That means you wanna it something!!! You wouldn’t be here if you didn’t wanna buy some furniture!!! I get you a good deal!!!! Let me help you!!!!!!!!
>customer starts swinging, breaks out of the ring, and runs to the door
>sales people lick their lips and start circling the store again, waiting for their next victim
Selling to consumers is shit tier retail. Get into enterprise sales selling IT to companies with 1000+ employees. Think selling for companies like Cisco, AWS, Zoom. There are literally thousands of smaller places you can work where you can be the first guy in the Midwest and bank huge stock options. Look at snowflake, they probably gave people 100k each vesting over 4 years. When they went IPO the company went 5x the value of its last round so that 100k is now 500k and you get it in addition to your 6 figure base salary and 6 figure commission.
Once you hit 100% of your sales targets you earn accelerators on your commissions which could be 2-3x your normal rate. It is insane how much you can make in a good year.
You don’t have to be technical because you have a sales engineer to cover that (or if you’re really autistic you can be the SE)
Yes. It’s amazing how helpful it can be to understand how to use a spreadsheet properly when you are in sales. Being organised is very important.
Most aspiring lawyers should also switch to sales IMO they will make more money and have more enjoyable lives and careers. Being a lawyer is one of the most overrated career paths you can choose and it fucking sucks. Finance is getting killed by automation and ETFs/Index funds. Tech sales is the next pot of gold and has been for 20 years.
Ask any other questions and I will come back to answer in 5-6 hours.
How do I get in?
Do you convince people to buy your shit or what do you do? Do you cold call?
On phone all day?
Can confirm. Was in sales for most of my 20s as an SE. Finally quit though because constantly being social when I'm one step away from full strength autism really got to me. Now I'm taking some time to work on my own projects now that I have enough capital where I don't have to put up with that shit.
Made 294k last year so I'll certainly miss the pay, but at the same time I was ready to rope if I did it one more day so I'm not going back.
What are the requirements to get into this? I have high IQ (135+) but no college degree and spotty but somewhat useful employment history in analysis. Not superb social skills but decent, no sales experience but have the mentality and ability to learn. Solid at holding conservation and very good at making logical arguments. Are these only available to work from tech hubs or are midmarkets like Florida, Texas, other fledgling tech centers available? Would learning programming be useful at all? Thanks OP.
Sales is becoming more and more remote friendly. You'll have to start somewhere - cars, real estate, SaaS as some examples. Programming won't really help with sales.
Hey if you could answer some questions I'd be really appreciative.
>my 20s as an SE
SE meaning sales engineer/exec or software engineer? How did you end up in that role of you consider yourself autistic, by learning it as a skill set? Also I'd ask you the same questions as in my post above to the OP. Thanks much
Daily data entry in CRM, (fuck off, salesforce)
>Pointless meetings and “calls” with middle/upper management with another iteration of number go up good, number go down bad
Consistently revising the commission structure to reduce payouts while increasing quota, forcing you to do more with less.
>Stupid awards like pens and other cheap, chinkware.
>Money is good if you’re willing to die inside.
user link us a job posting that would meet this criteria
I’ll share this after four years in the medical device game; once you’ve maxed out your territory and they refuse to increase your base pay, it’s time for a new, better job. If you want to sell for a competitor, never sell for the smaller, up-and-coming outfit, they won’t pay out as well with many not even offering a 401K.
user give a quick rundown on how you got started and what skills you might need. Also this
There’s a guy at Splunk who closed a 75M deal with PayPal about a year ago, probably made 5M that year
You don’t have any to be some outgoing chad either. Learn your product, ask the right questions, ask more questions, solve the customers’ problems and be genuine. Nobody cares what you have to say, only what you can do for them.
Yep Sales Engineer. Actually knew a guy out of college whose dad worked at a company where he was able to give me connections. I just built up from there bouncing to different software companies to boost my salary.
Even though I'm practically autistic it worked in my favor for these roles some of the time. I worked for DevOps, security, and public cloud companies which allowed me to hyperfocus on the tech which helped me get through some of the more social aspects. People give you a lot of rope with the social aspects as long as you know your shit, but ideally you can operate in both modes. Eventually though I started having physical symptoms from so much anxiety from all the socializing. Got the shingles due to stress, burnout, sweating. I'm 32 now so it took a while to build up for me but really should be considered if you really don't like working with people that much.
My advice just take whatever role you can get and bounce after 2 years and then move to a startup. It will allow you to get your salary way higher in a short time span.
Fix your fucking diet and stop being fat too. There’s a reason Pfizer hired playboy models and cheerleaders without a lick of science in their degree: sex sells.
It’s called phenibut, faggot. Just don’t take it every day.
Interesting thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that.
sales as in selling shitcoins?
Hydrochloride, NOT the free form amino.
user, this stuff is no joke, don’t abuse it or it will destroy you. It’s for occasions like a luncheon or meeting with a company admin to try and close.
Is SE or AE a more lucrative career path? Is it possible to from one to the next easily? Or if you are an SE and want to be an AE, you have to become an SDR?
AE is more money but lower base than SE. Moving around is very easy - your network is very portable if you have a good reputation. If you are technical, starting as an SE then moving into sales is a high chance of success
You think LinkedIn is the best place to find these jobs?
Started in sales support until I got my first break into proper sales. Focus on learning in your first 5 years - who will you learn from the most? Don’t do another industry and try to transition to tech - start in tech. If you’re in the US choose a region you want to stay in and aim to work from there. You can start as a remote BDR in that territory then move later
Enterprise IT sales can be done from anywhere but it’s based on customer head office. Bay Area obviously many more jobs that NM.
Know your product well enough to ask leading questions of your customer. How to win friends and influence people is the best book on building rapport. If you are autistic you need to learn how to fake normie which takes time but is achievable for most aspies i think.
If you are full autist go into data science
do normalfags unironically need to be told sales is easy money? wagies are truly the strangest creatures. trade years of your life for money, yet won't even take a few hours to consider what's the best career choice
I've had good times and bad times in sales, but the crux was always that it wasn't what I wanted to do.