how the fuck do doctors work 60hr+ work weeks for 40 years (including college + residency) while being the happiest people on the planet?
>is there hypnosis or something to train myself to have this work ethic?
I don't want to be a medical doctor, I want to be high a high achiever btw.
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>while being the happiest people on the planet
doctors have some of the highest suicide rates of all professions
that being said: the high achievement mindset is probably just either there or not. imho all that "dude just self-improve"-stuff is just cope on a massive scale and wishful thinking.
chad doesn't think about self-improvement ever, he was just born with his attitude.
i'm not trying to be demotivational, but i've never seen self-improvement actually make a huge (!) difference. people tend to stay more or less the same, and using huge amounts of willpower to change your natural tendencies can only ever be a short-term solution
> happiest
Doctors have huge depression, drug abuse/alcoholism, obesity and suicide rates.
They're about as unhappy as a career goes.
looks like a tranner waiting to happen
dude just safex!
its the other way around. Only motivated, hard working people become doctors. Its one of the few professions where hard work actually pays off big time. You are guaranteed upper middle class if you complete medschool.
Why then there is always a demand for more doctors/dentists/vets? not many of those kind of pure hardworking people (medschool is expensive, yes, but taking a debt for it is a no brainer)
I was in the Navy as a corpsman and worked with a lot of young doctors. Smart as fuck people but so willing to work for as long as it takes. None of that groaning my fellow enlisted did when we had to stay late. Also they gamed the system right. If you're willing to commit a few years as a medical officer, they will completely pay off your school debt.
As said earlier, many physicians are miserable. The job is not very fun or interesting and sometimes rarely even rewarding. They can’t really “practice” medicine anymore and have been reduced basically to keyboard warriors who just hear symptoms from patient, give medicine. Insurance companies are actively undermining physicians and it’s obvious we are approaching an effort to neuter their profession by the federal government. I can’t imagine a worse field to go into as a new college grad than medicine right now. There will be physician shortages within the next decade or more because it’s just not worth the debt, professional liability, stress, personal risk, and time to become a physician nowadays.
huge sudden shifts are very rare while long term changes are less noticeable in other people as we’re naturally focused on ourselves. I can’t prove you wrong because the only evidence I have is anectodal but looking at myself 3-4 years back I know for sure self improvement is not a meme for people who put in the work. we have access to more useful knowledge and can self-reflect better than any humans before us and we somehow find that a bad thing
maybe your definition of "huge change" is different from mine. what i was trying to say is that people, as far as i can tell, do not become chads - they either have "it" or they don't.
overcoming is a conscious process, while the mindset OP wants is an underlying phenomenon present in the subconsciousness. chads are chads even when spontaneous or not paying attention, because the winner attitude is molded into the very definition of what they are.
you can turn yourself from a slob into an organized person or learn to approach people as an introvert (because these are all processes that can be planned consciously), but you do not magically generate that kind of "winning" attitude that makes you react like a chad spontaneously.
>As said earlier, many physicians are miserable
>They can’t really “practice” medicine anymore and have been reduced basically to keyboard warriors
>it’s obvious we are approaching an effort to neuter their profession by the federal government. I can’t imagine a worse field to go into as a new college grad than medicine right now.
>that passive bitch voice
kek stop thinking about hypnosis and get on some test you faggot
I am not a doctor but am in the process of applying, while passing the interviews isn't guaranteed my academic record is way, way better than the average doctor. This is medify but I scored well into the top 1% on the real thing, I just don't want to get doxxed.
I imagine it varies from person to person but for me I'd only ever be happy working a high paying high status job, which limits me to doctor, FAANG, investment banking and maybe law. I've been like this as long as I can remember, if I was an accountant or something of similar pay/prestige I'd feel like a complete loser and there's likely nothing I can do about this so I'm happy to work 60+ hour weeks. Out of the professions I'm limited to doctor is the only one which looks enjoyable and hence it seems like a no brainer.
Also that guy is much, much more intelligent/driven than the average doctor and it's dumb to think they're all like that.
He's not wrong. The whole thread is full of cope central.
Also expanding a bit it has loads of advantages many don't think of. It's extremely easy to go part time or take a gap year compared to in other careers, it's actually quite easy to become one as opposed to the other high status professions, you have infinite job security and the demand for doctors is uniform across the country so you can live in the cheap places while earning the same/higher salary than doctors in London or Los Angeles
His mind isn't full of bullshit nonsense. Probably gets drunk a couple times a year, maybe tried weed once if at all. Spent the rest of the time learning and becoming articulate and enjoying it. Got over his shyness and intellectual laziness and learned the shit out of something valuable. He long since cut out all the bullshit in his life.
>while being the happiest people on the planet
doctor is probably not the best choice if one wants to be happy
also I think alcoholism is a huge problem among doctors because of the high amounts stress
That's wrong on 2 aspects.
First sellf improvement isn't a meme, I've seen druggies turning their lives around.
The thing is it's mostly about compensating for the shortcomings of your education as a kid.
Upper class STEM Ivy League graduate almost always had loving high IQ married financially well off parents, academic support and good values ingrained ever since they were young kids so these things compound into success as an adult. Typically kids of of teachers do very well in college for this reason.
You don't have to self improve much when you have been pushed to be curious, hard working and moderate all your life.
i understand what you’re getting at and its mostly a blackpilled view
>chads are chads even when spontaneous or not paying attention, because the winner attitude is molded into the very definition of what they are.
this is true
>people do not become chads - they either have "it" or they don't.
this is not true and these are not mutually exclusive. mental patterns can be changed and become ingrained into ones personality. im not saying its easy, otherwise most of men would be chads, but its doable. I’m not a total chad yet myself but I’m well on the way there and have enjoyed social situations I’d previously been afraid of and uncomfortable in. if you need more testimonials find theredarchive, its archive of theredpill old posts
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Female doctors kill themselves because they realize a career doesn't make them happy.
Men kill themselves because they make long hours and get blamed for it by their wives.
i never said it was a meme, i'm saying you can only compensate consciously and that whatever you put your willpower into will not come naturally - it will always be a decision, an act, a learned (unnatural) behavior
>Upper class STEM Ivy League graduate almost always had loving high IQ married financially well off parents, academic support and good values ingrained ever since they were young kids
in other words: they always had "it"
only positivity allowed here? i don't think i'm the one here that needs to "go back", faggot
If you have a Chad friend group it helps a lot. My HS friends basically dragged me out by the neck to party and lift with them instead of raiding in wow. All were big sports dudes, plenty of girls around them so i could learn now things worked and eventually be almost on their level.
10 years later and im back to rotting in front of a computer.
Thank you for posts user. from your post i'm taking you set high standards for yourself and have a high self esteem
Lold irl based
Autism helps
how could you not work every waking moment of your life when there's no one to say you're wrong and you literally think you're god.
i'd work every day too. and getting paid a fair amount for it and have the choice of all prime pussy? nice one.
My standards for myself are extremely high, self esteem bit isn't true at all though. I was abused as a child and the emptiness it left is impossible to fill.
I have a few friends in medical school. I graduated with a BA 6 years ago and theyre all still in medical school or residencies, each has racked up an enormous amount of debt and puts virtually anything they pay for on credit, when they cant borrow money from their parents. The thought that most of them will probably end up low paid rural doctors is the icing on the cake. Imagine banking up close to a million dollars in loans for a medical degree that requires you to work 60 hours a week to make six figures? Sounds awful to me. I'd much rather just get rich off of shitcoins.
They are NPCs with a high tolerance for bullshit, willing to work in the system, jump through the hoops without question, and submit to large corporations that give them more money to shill their drugs than they otherwise would have made with their already inflated base salary.
If you want to be a "high achiever" it's easy, sacrifice your humanity and moral values and slave away for goldberg. Pick your favorite high paying career (doctor, lawyer, politician) and sell out.
You definitely won't be dragged out of your office and shot in the near future.
>when there's no one to say you're wrong and you literally think you're god.
you should work in a clinic, these patients are quick to fact check doctors because of Google M.D
>I graduated with a BA 6 years ago
In the USA med school takes an additional 4 years, not 6. In the UK it takes an extra year.
>The thought that most of them will probably end up low paid rural doctors is the icing on the cake.
Immigrants do this in the USA since no Americans want to do it.
>Imagine banking up close to a million dollars in loans
The average debt after medical school in the USA is $250k and most positions in the USA offer loan repayment as a benefit
>requires you to work 60 hours a week to make six figures?
Even for the worst paid specialties you're looking at 2 days a week max if you're happy settling for $100k. For surgery it's more like 1 day a week for $100k a year although you'd have to do more to keep your skills up.
>Sounds awful to me. I'd much rather just get rich off of shitcoins.
The key issue here is this is very unlikely to work
Keep coping.
I hope you eventually find something that helps user
Cheers
Yeah we get it your mom was a real bitch. Shut up, adults are talking.