JPMorgan and DoJ manifest their psychopathy to the public

justice.gov/opa/pr/jpmorgan-chase-co-agrees-pay-920-million-connection-schemes-defraud-precious-metals-and-us

"According to admissions and court documents, between approximately March 2008 and August 2016, numerous traders and sales personnel on JPMorgan’s precious metals desk located in New York, London, and Singapore engaged in a scheme to defraud in connection with the purchase and sale of gold, silver, platinum, and palladium futures contracts (collectively, precious metals futures contracts) that traded on the New York Mercantile Exchange Inc. and Commodity Exchange Inc., which are commodities exchanges operated by the CME Group Inc. In tens of thousands of instances, traders on the precious metals desk placed orders to buy and sell precious metals futures contracts with the intent to cancel those orders before execution, including in an attempt to profit by deceiving other market participants through injecting false and misleading information concerning the existence of genuine supply and demand for precious metals futures contracts. In addition, on certain occasions, traders on the precious metals desk engaged in trading activity that was intended to deliberately trigger or defend barrier options held by JPMorgan and thereby avoid losses."

If you read the publication, you will read that they also did the same with U.S. Treasury futures contracts, notes, and bonds.

If you have a SINGLE functioning brain cell, you should be liquidating all of your positions if you have read the publication and understood exactly what both the DoJ and JPMorgan did. A $920 million dollar fine is not only a joke, but an unholy irony considering the fact that JPMorgan committed fraud against the legal tender that the DoJ is ordering them to repay their debts in. The Department of Justice is complicit. These people are absolutely sick, and this judgment by the DoJ should be considered sedition.

You are an idiot beyond any help if you aren't liquidating NOW.

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Liquidating what? My link and sergey have nothing to do with these jpmorgan and stuff. Sergey is a nice guy. He always wants to see my linkies in the green :).

The state is corrupt and the USA is beyond saving anyway. They'll just keep adding stimulus to the market until the whole bubble explodes spectacularly, bringing the entire Western world into economic disarray and depression

ok go on...

so they spoofed a couple orders and created artificial support and resistances. is that it?

You're mentally retarded.

based retard

fpbp

then help me realize the gravity of this

It sounds like they did the same exact thing we do. They take a position and then either FUD it or shill it.

clearly a calculated move by jpm to take advantage of black communities.

That's it.
Market will be manipulated forever, creation of SEC and CFTC and other cocksuckers changed absolutely nothing.
From time to time some cheeky jews get a slap on the wrist but it's just business expense.

No shit

This is shameful the thing isn't dismantled and executives thrown out in jail. Clown world.

isn't this common? libor scandal settlement was only ~10bn

We're beyond fucked. Is there any salvation to be found anywhere?

This publication is basically the DoJ rubber stamping the U.S.A. with "The Rule of Law is Dead".

This is bullish for bitcoin.

JP Morgans fraudulent trades have been net short for silver futures which lowered spot price on paper thereby allowing them to buy massive amounts of physical silver at a discount. If anything this should be giving you strong buy signals for physical precious metals, particularly silver. No more manipulative short positions is bullish

ok I think im getting it

I don't get it what's going on?
They rigged USD markets?

Why wouldn't there be manipulation elsewhere?

yeah. basically treason.

and the punishment they get still leaves them with a profit. So why not just do it again?

There aren't many financial powerhouses big enough to manipulate on such a scale. The hunt brothers came close in the 1980s silver bullrun but their role in that is overblown. Their stockpiling of 22 million oz of physical silver only affected spot price by a dollar or 2 at most

Correct.

they artificially generated market activity in one direction with publicly viewable calls that were cancelled before execution only to make profitable calls on the other side of the market once their manipulation had taken affect. Most transactions were artificial short selling of silver futures which dropped the spot price thereby allowing them to buy physical silver for less

>bitcoin futures

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so what whales do every day on btc basically? we just call them spoofy

lmao scam

That is interesting, but reading the document I don't see why JPM wouldn't do it again, it's all voluntary self policing still. There might be some more bs safeguards in place but reading that doc made it all just seem perfunctory. Even if they got "fined" again it'd probably still be for less than they made in the fraud

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the shrugs off the fine like water off a raincoat but the individual bank investors that made the trades get much more severe criminal charges. JP morgan is going to under a watchful eye, independent monitor or not, good luck finding a banker in their precious metals department willing to step out of line for the next several years at least

This is literally no different than crypto

or maybe crypto is just the same as all other markets?

You know everything is fucked that I've gotten so used to this in crypto that it doesn't seem like a big deal anymore.

You're an idiot.

Perhaps you are for resorting to ad hominem.

OK, idiot.

well maybe all that regulation is useless and only serve to enrich a select (((group))) by distorting natural market mechanisms?

None of that sounds particularly wrong though.

> "oh no i bought my new 'Magi-mop 3000 for $200 because someone else in the crowd seemed like he really wanted it! Ohhh noooooooooOoOOOO!"