The recent COVID chaos made me realize that people are unprepared for worst case scenarios and lack access to the most basic things like food and grocery.
If the virus had been a lot more deadlier than its 3% death rate right now.....everyone would have shit their pants
Would you give up your city life to move to the suburbs and build a cheap 1-2 acre Farmhouse/homestead where you can grow your own veggies and meat and live off the grid?
Has anyone done this already if so share your feedback?
Imagine eating veggies. Raw eggs, meat, milk, honey and fruits is all you need user. Death rate is much lower than 3% btw
oh you're still in that edgy "hurrr i just discovered the carnivore diet"-phase?
how cute. let us know when you've grown up, yes?
>carnivore
>honey and fruits, sometimes maple syrup and rice
like i care what specific flavor of retard you are.
most carnivores include honey (as it technically comes from an animal), and all people obsessed with diet (all people in either the vegan or carni cult) are hypocrites.
if you unironically do not eat mostly harmless veggies but promote fructose then you are completely fucking retarded
In case anyone is wondering this image is from the book The New Complete Book of Self-Sufficiency by John Seymour; his writings about starting a homestead/autobiography (The Fat of the Land) is also a great book.
I plan on becoming self sufficient when I am able to afford land. John Seymour's book on self sufficiency is pretty good. My biggest source of food would be eggs and milk with some plants. I think a cow is a bit too hard as a beginner so I was thinking about sheeps for milk instead of cows. Has anyone here have experience with keeping sheeps for milk? And has anyone tried raw sheeps milk?
aren't goats the better choice for this?
even though goat milk has a harsh smell to it
I've no experience with keeping animals but chickens/ducks seem pretty easy. Once you get used to smaller animals then cows and bigger livestock would probably be manageable. You do just have to just take the leap I think.
Goats are hardier I think, but they don't produce as much manure (or milk) which is essential for improving soils and maintaining fertility levels for your plants (which you will then feed back to the animals).
Goats are too aggressive, it's a hassle to keep them on their plot and if they escape they will totally destroy your garden.
b-bros, should I tether my $COWS or do you think we're still gonna go up?
Cows are practically harmless, you're worrying too much. Goats are more dangerous. Not only can they climb practically anything (for instance destroy your roof and escape) they are capable of nasty horn strikes.
thx
I grow up on a farm
we had cows and the neighbour goats
as long as you don't have male goats roaming around (and oh boy these bastards smell horrible) it shouldn't be that hard probably.
cows would only be worth it if you have more than just 2-3 people to feed
so sheeps would be really the best bet in the beginning?
and yes, chickens are easy peasy and probably a must have
If your plot is big enough, I'd say there's absolutely no reason not to have a cow. The extra milk can be made into cheese/dulce de leche or just fed to other animals.
>promote fructose then you are completely fucking retarded
Hahahahahahahaha. Imagine calling others diet cultists and then coming out with that. Just wow.
are you well? i personally eat virtually everything. but IF (!) you're going to be picky about plant-based-foods, fructose is clearly unhealthy in large amounts and way worse than goitrogens, oxalates etc. that veggies will give you.
nice reading comprehension, randomly assuming that i must be on some kind of meme diet when i merely point out the stupidity of the guy i was responding to.
Nah think about it. Fruits want to be eaten to spread their seeds. They give you what's good for you to incentivize you and keep you healthy as a partner in seed spreading. Plants don't want to be eaten, hence the anti metabolic compounds to discourage and weaken you.
Seeds themselves don't want to be eaten so they're bad for you.
Honey and milk are both designed to be eaten but we steal them. The defence for these isn't poisons but bees stinging and non domesticated animals fighting you.
I want to farm camels for their milk, its like some miracle cure for autism and we all know thats a booming market
Likewise with meat the animals run away or fight you. Plants can't do that so they try poison you. Still, we can cook some of the crap out of them and some of them aren't that bad but yeah.
>fructose bad
>sugar good
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF CULTISTS
wow you were actually serious. you're completely ignorant, though. all i'm going to say to you is look up how unhealthy fructose is, how it gets metabolized (hint: same pathways as alcohol).
"want to be eaten" is not a goddamn argument. does grass "want to be eaten" because cows can digest it (humans can't)? do rocks "want to be eaten" because some birds swallow them to aid digestion? overly simplistic way of looking at evolution and in no way connected to reality.
nice reading comprehension, bro
I have. I make about 80% of my own food.
Also, forgot to mention about how nice it was to have 30 acres of land to roam while everyone was stuck in their shitty apartment during the lockdown.
What's the point?
If a virus more deadly destroyed society you'd just have niggers raiding your farm
Yeah bro, fruit just exists for like no reason. Like plants just expend loads of energy on making enticing fruit for no reason. It only tastes good because we evolved to eat things that poison us. Thank goodness the science jews did some peer reviewed studies and found out that fructose is actually bad and actually canola oil is the healthy alternative.
thisthe correct plan would still be have the land but build a bunker plus stock it for a year or two and live in that past the first winter and most people would of starved.
you are aware of the fact that there are fruits that are insanely toxic and even potentially deadly to humans, yes? just stop posting and do some research, jesus christ
99% of anons with this 'dream' couldn't hack this lifestyle and would be calling papa johns within a few weeks, even if they were handed a fully set up homestead.
Let alone go out and build one.
Literally the only good plan.
The few feral nigs left would be easily disposed of, then you can exit the bunker and actually create a safe farmstead with your fellow whites who were also smart enough to do the same and rebuild society (a society free of nigs too)
Niggers are urban creatures and will stay in their urban death cities until their death.
It's Bubba coming over in his 4x4 that you'll need to be worried about.
the virus does not have anything near a 3% death rate. turn off the TV and go outside, take a picture of the piles of bodies that would be there if 3% of 350,000,000 people, were dead.
>do some (((research)))
Yikes
Becoming self sufficient in communities is the ONLY thing modern day activists should be doing. Reducing our reliance on the system is the only way to change it, protests will be ignored and crushed by the money that courses through the whole society.
Self sustained communities are the only way to outlive the inevitable collapse which will be ever accelerating and becoming increasingly more dangerous as time goes on. I think the fever pitch will be 2050 onwards. Most of us may not see the full collapse, but our children will
tonight when you go to bed i want you to stay awake for a few minutes, stare at the ceiling and honestly ask yourself how your low-effort shitposting affects yourself and the people around you.
I think a lot of the "natural" arguments go out of the window with modern fruits and veggies. Generally they're the way they are through selective breeding rather than any ancient symbiosis. I'd still eat them because I like them, and they seem like a pretty easy way to get a lot of different nutrients. Plus there's all sorts of other uses like as herbs and flavourings, preservatives like vinegars and oils, etc.
Doesn't seem like a big problem. The problem now is you can't safely defend yourself without having your life ruined. Without a media and crooked justice system you would have more of a chance to at least have your life intact after fending off a raid.
I'm more interested in setting up a productive ecosystem and then being more like a forager off it. For example rather than having a big orchard full of one variety of chestnut trees (then manage their health and wellbeing), just have a big wood with a mix of all kinds of nuts and fruits. If a pest takes hold on one kind, let it be and just eat the other kinds. Way lower yields but way lower effort. Is this realistic or just an environmentalist meme though?