Do rich people believe in free will or determinism?

I too have audism.

The neoplatonic view aka christian view only exists because people wanted an escape from this shitty world so they chose to believe in a world beyond. I can respect it in an artistic sense but if you truthfully believe it in 2020 you are in denial about the absurd.

The idea gives no escape. It's a model that describes what we actually perceive. No physical model is capable of doing that. You choose to ignore the parts your physical models can't describe because they scare you. You're the one deluding yourself to find escape from reality and then projecting that on everyone else.

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shut the fuck up let me have this

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why did you post a picture of yourself

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also, free will does not exist

the more entitled you are the more likely it is that you will disagree with this statement

grow up, theres no babayaga in the clouds judging your every move, its your mothers job - until you move out of the basement that is

Determinism.

The entire concept of free will hinges on the existence of the "self" as a distinct entity in the Cartesian dualist sense. In reality, our actions, thoughts etc. are all produced by the interaction between our environment and our nervous system.

Besides, Libet's electroencephalographic studies in the 1980's essentially crushed any possibility of free will. There is a measurable change in electrical potential that occurs in a population of neurons that are about to fire called "readiness potential", Libet determined that the build up in readiness potential occurs >300ms before the moment at which the subjects made the decision to move. If the circuit that initiates movement begins to fire 300ms before the decision to move enters your conscious awareness, how could you possibly have free will?

Consciousness is an epiphenomenon and we have no agency, but we feel as if we do.

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That's not what either of those concepts mean at all.

You have no idea what the free will vs determinism argument even is do you?

Only god has truly free will. I have 90k chainlink

Predictive power is what makes people rich. Whoever models reality best has the most predictive power.
Hard work and money is useless if you don't know where to apply it. No great man in history was an atheist.
Labeling a thing doesn't explain anything. When you say consciousness is an "epiphenomenon" and act as if you solved something is only demonstrating the point of how brainwashed you people are by your labels.
>we have no agency, but we feel as if we do
If we modeled your entire brain in a computer there would be no way to measure if it's conscious. Just think about why that is. If coherent consciousness emerges in complex systems with memory like an ape or computer brain that just proves the qualia these brains modulate was already there embedded in the rules of reality.

Determinism but in the sense they feel they are absolutely meant to be rich and powerful

It's still your choice, even if unconscious. Unless you define "you" as only your conscious self, but that's not true.

What does his physical appearance have anything to do with his superior way of thinking? Socrates was ugly af but he was considered the wisest if not most brilliant man of his time in terms of existentialism and philosophy

Why did so many independent thinkers pop up at the same time saying the same things and wearing the same hat?

What triggered your unconscious choice?

It seems like if one is a materialist atheist, then one must conclude free will does not exist. Everything "choice" you make is influenced by 2 things, your genetics and your environment, neither of which you have any control over. In this case, you are a train running down tracks, under the illusion that you get choices. A powerful illusion, but an illusion all the same. The alternative is that your choices come from somewhere else, that somewhere being non-material, supernatural, or some phenomenon that we don't have any evidence for; i.e. your soul. If you believe in the former scenario, how can you justify holding people responsible for their actions? I suppose consequences are part of the environment that will dissuade anti-social behavior, but inflicting suffering in retribution for acts the perpetrator had no control over seems unreasonable.

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What defined how the chain reaction leading to the trigger for your choice unfolded?

Even if you're purely a materialist, there's so much about the universe we don't understand yet. We can't even explain consciousness and why we experience things. Saying there's no possibility of free will is assuming way too much about how things work.

yes. I've seen people argue that if the quantum world truly is random it could be a part of our consciousness / free will.

Free will for rich people. Determinism for the poor.

based and quantumpilled

thank you. no one ever gets this

Karl who?