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2008 Global financial crisis VS Covid19: Which is worse?
Ryan Flores
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Nicholas Scott
2008 cause I had no money to buy stonks
Doing great financially because of covid
Logan Cox
Covid hasn't even started yet. Just wait until the free money stops, the unemployment stacks up and the insolvency phase starts
I feel for anyone who has a family and struggles already
Liam Davis
Covid19 is the scape goat for a financial crisis at least 10x 2008.
Jason Murphy
This t.b.h. f@m
Lincoln Jones
My meemaw made quite a bit of money during/after the 2008 collapse but died of Covid in April. Literally made money with a black president and lost her life with an orange one.
YOU TELL ME.
Elijah James
This because before covid there were 2 consecutive quarters with less growth meaning a recession.
Also in september 2019 the repo markets (interbank lending) failed. The first time since 2008 those markets needed bailed out.
The Fed printed 1.5 trillion a night before canceling the reserve requirement rules entirely in March 2020
>As announced on March 15, 2020, the Board reduced reserve requirement ratios to zero percent effective March 26, 2020. This action eliminated reserve requirements for all depository institutions
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Covid is the biggest financial lie and cover up and nobody is really calling out the bullshit.
Tyler Reyes
why would the free money stop? they can prevent the insolvency phase by just printing and giving to all those affected. They have been doing QE since 2009 and no inflation, all austrian economists proven wrong over and over.
Jordan White
So when people lose their jobs and can't afford to pay rent, the government will step in and pay it? What about car insurance when people can't afford it? Or food on the table? At what point does the government decide you've had enough.
Chase Harris
Wtf is s meemaw?
Ayden Jackson
yes, they can keep printing and give out money. MMT is correct, if people need the money the fed will provide it, as they should.
Jason Phillips
Also the yield curve inversion last year
Camden Richardson
You're missing the point. Let's pretend you lose your job tomorrow. Rent is due and you don't quite have enough. Now, what's your next plan? How are you going to get all that free printed money?
Connor Phillips
by check in mail
Samuel Sanders
we never got over 2008 it was swept under the rug by qe and it's coming back with a vengeance of course situation now is undoubtedly worse.
Joseph King
>yes, they can keep printing and give out money.
yes they can however when total productivity collapses and the money printer revs up you get venezuela.
Chase Fisher
can't wait for people to make handbags out of $100 bills.
nocoiners will find ways to entertain us i'm sure.
Owen Carter
UBI needs to be in place right now to prevent that. The fed needs to set up accounts for every citizen over the age of 18, and send them funds every month to get through this tough time
Joshua Brooks
08 crisis by a long shot. Covid19 is a meme (albeit very effective propaganda)
Isaac Green
for ubi to be possible 20% of the population needs to be able to support the 80% unproductives.
however automation is still not there yet. so this would be a suicide to implement full ubi just yet. unemployment/walfare is a better option in the short run. but in the end we are heading there.
Joshua Harris
also this. let’s put it this way: if 08 never happened, Covid wouldn’t have happened
Josiah Murphy
I 100% agree, a UBI is the only solution right now. But Socialism = Communism to the general public and the propaganda is strong. People will vote against it, because they believe "bootstraps" and "sweat on your brow" all this work to live bullshit.
"Why should I pay for the lefties??"I can guarantee it
Carter Baker
UBI is for poor lazy niggers with no capital
Your kind will get gassed like the subhumans you are
Caleb Stewart
Case in point
Josiah Bailey
This.
Lincoln Ortiz
>because they believe "bootstraps" and "sweat on your brow" all this work to live bullshit
well multi generational propaganda is hard to get by
Michael Rivera
Covid 19 crisis will be much worse, because it's a controlled crash of the economy with few survivors. The Great Reset.
Lincoln Cook
it doesnt, the people have figured out that they can vote themselves money. the productive class is going to rapidly shrink and be overwhelmed by the horde. this situation is one of the reasons the founders provided us with the second amendment.
Dylan Perry
no
Bentley Brooks
Ok. Europe is preparing for lockdowns 2.0. USA will be forced to do a proper lockdown and your economy will implode and be surpassed by China.
Noah Nelson
no
Dylan Turner
Sheep
Jace Turner
thats more than half the population
Alexander Howard
You're right I forgot about that huge indicator
Yep
Nicholas Miller
We will not get that kind of consumer stuff inflation, if we look at CPI we are in deflation. It’s much more subtle, because we are talking about asset hyperinflation, so we will still be able to buy food, but never be able own a house anymore
Jeremiah Phillips
And you will wear the mask and bake the faggot a cake and accept millions of migrants
It's all a businesses deal where you have no freedom without a free market
Jacob Wood
Covid will be worse once its all said and done. Im just another user but this is what I see comming.
- more job loss across the globe
- more countries national currency gets thier slaughtered in purchasing power.
- more civil unrest due to division through political views, race, wealth inequality, and increased militarization of the police forces
- increased lack of privacy
- forced vacccines
- anxiety and depression epidemic will become a suicide epidemic
- elimination of paper cash
- social credit system and digital health cards.
- those who stayed employed during the pandemic ( work from home) will be competing to with a global payscale adjustment, meaning your 6 figure salary in USA will need to come down to the standard of ones pay who will gladly take over your role in china and India which is probably 80% cheaper.
- most likely 90% of crypto goes to zero while a top 5-10% of the top performers become adopted
Jack Morgan
>so we will still be able to buy food
until productivity declines you are ignoring that in the end money is just a umber but the goods and services are actually traded worldwide and internally.
once there is a scarcity of gods and services and an over abundance of money you get hyperinflation and a fiat death spiral.
Nicholas Anderson
>be surpassed by China
this already happened
Sebastian Thomas
>QE since 2009 and no inflation
things that count (rent, medical bills, school tuition) went up. who cares if an iphone got a bit cheaper
Eli Fisher
crypto is not big enough nor widely accepted to substitute the dollar (or any other major currency) you dumb fuck and it won't be for years or maybe ever. So gloat about your bitcoins, but if things take a turn for the worst - and it looks like they will soon - it's gonna be a race for the fucking exit on both markets and crypto
Aaron Myers
you're a retard if you dont understand the covid shutdowns are used to destroy the economy so we can have the great reset and new monetary policies
Carson Harris
Richard feynman IQ