In all seriousness it's the only proper job Let's look at the alternatives
>FANG You literally sit in front of a computer every day hours on end. Imagine being 50 and looking back on your life having done this... jesus fucking christ. It also only requires 4 years of post secondary education whereas doctor comes in at 10. No men respect it and no girls fantasise about programmers.
>Law Education requirements are a bit better than FANG but the pay is shit and at the end of the day it's a bit meaningless again.
>Investment banking and similar Best pay but you're throwing away years of your life doing absolutely insane hours, also extremely difficult to break into. Same pathetic education requirement as FANG
>police/military/firefighter/nurse/teacher All interesting and important jobs you can look back on and be proud of but the pay is absolute shit.
Jobs not listed are just shit and shouldn't even be considered.
A man doesn't need a lot of money. Find something that is meaningful and brings joy even when your dirt poor. A lot of people that make it and earn lots of money feel empty inside. So stop focusing on the pay
Cameron Moore
Depends on the speciality; it can become very wagey very fast, especially if you're shit with money.
Most rewarding is either direct impact on pt or straight up fixing an issue (surgery). I liked cardiology, and love paeds as kids are fucking great. Very rewarding and fulfilling, but can be brutally sad and very exhausting as well.
Great way for keeping you down to earth though. As your wealth goes up, you typically associate wiht others of that bracket; you forget about nice people who have just had a shit run of luck in their lives, and you do your best to help them.
Also stop smoking if you smoke and for the love of god do some exercise.
Jack Davis
Law fag here. I wouldn’t say the pay is shit. It guarantees you a middle class life at the very least—as long as you went to a decent law school and didn’t fuck up while there. It’s also respectable work and you do make a difference in the lives of your clients, depending on the area of law. The pay varies wildly. You can make from 60k (state prosecutor but then get your loans forgiven plus benefits) to 180k (top law school grads working in soul crushing big law) to hundreds of millions (some of the best ambulance chasers).
Cooper Ramirez
>A man doesn't need a lot of money. Find something that is meaningful and brings joy even when your dirt poor. A lot of people that make it and earn lots of money feel empty inside. So stop focusing on the pay Precisely why I might step away from my 170k software engineering job and try something else. Currently in my late 20s.
I was laser focused on high status education and cash for a while, but as a relatively minimalist man, the only things I have left to buy are a home and retirement. I care much more about having time to pursue working out, meeting people, and especially deeply connecting with women.
If I do exit, I won't regret having accumulated ~200k in software engineering; it's useful for finanical climbing and that's it. 200k is enough for a guy to go get into just about anything and some of the "pay is shit" careers become digestible when you already own a home from your prior tech career.
Leo Lewis
>A lot of people that make it and earn lots of money feel empty inside. So stop focusing on the pay Sure, let's forget about the means that allow a person for acquiring a house, a laboratory, travel, decent upbringing of children and a legacy for them, and most of all, means to protect oneself from petty criminals and extremely vicious and relentless criminals in suits. This is probably a US, or a first world medic thread, which are a handful. The rest of the world has just as shit pay as police/military/firefighter/nurse/teacher. The meaning in life is not determined by wealth or whatever activity you did to achieve or attempted to achieve. It is all within oneself. We will talk money, business and wealth, because relinquishing money or doing vows of poverty is a tacit admission that things are managed properly by those who possess it and have a solid say in the matter. And I sure as hell know for a fact most don't know what to do with money but make more of it, never to aim for a goal with a worldview worthy of men atop billions. But here is truth . Yes, you might need to spend like 15 years of your life as an average doctor, living in miserable conditions to have a sliver of hope to get any meaningful amount of money, but at least once you do become a specialist and know the business, now you can finally grow.
Dominic Cook
Nursing here.
Actually I think much better than some alternatives. Working as a wagie nurse for public healthcare, hell no, but the competition to get into management is minimal and especially in private, care homes for example, there is potential to make more money than a doctor with far less of the problems.
Jordan Kelly
>here is potential to make more money than a doctor with far less of the problems. And thank god for that. You take plenty of shit in your day to day. You don't need another layer of problems regardless of how well you've managed to handle the issues in your main line of work.
Aiden James
Medfag here, my intention is to finish med school, grind for a few years, and then get some bullshit consulting job or just work like 3 days/week. I have realized I just fundamentally do not like to "work".
Nathaniel Thompson
Psych nurse here and I don't do shit all day except pass meds twice a shift which takes about an hour total. I get 85k which isn't amazing but I wouldn't say it's shit pay, especially for the amount of work I do. Fuck medsurg/icu/er nursing, that's slave labor. Security deals with the patients while I sit in the office and browse biz for new shitcoins to gamble on. Oh yeah, I'm doing this with an associates degree I got in cc for 20k.
Kayden Walker
> You literally sit in front of a computer WFH every day shitposting on biz, trading crypto and stocks , fapping to porn, playing vidya and getting paid 6 figures yeah, i think i think i chose the wrong profession
>Psych nurse here and I don't do shit all day except pass meds twice a shift Wow. I figured accountability and effort was low (from my own inpatient experience).
Might have to list this to my therapist as a dream career lmao.
Colton Ward
> Investment banking and similar > Best pay
I'm not in IB, but I've worked for the Asset Management business of [GS/JPM/MS/BoA] for 7 years. I would say my peers who are engineers at FAANG, etc outpace the earnings for most high finance folks in the beginning of their careers, especially when you consider the appreciation of their equity packages.
I know a few Product Managers who are already starting to hit 7 figure net worths in their mid/late-20's, primarily due to appreciation of their signing-on packages out of undergrad.
That said, there's basically no ceiling for earning potential in finance if you're able to stick it out. Very few folks make it to that point. The career path is a conveyer belt of attrition.
Daniel Baker
>associates degree I got in cc Also what was the associates specifically?
Ian Peterson
Proper job that is done better by computers, doctors will be obscelete within our life times. Also you forgot engineers
Robert Cruz
think you forgot engineer
Joseph Ortiz
>Also you forgot engineers >think you forgot engineer One could claim that software engineering made the rest obsolete in terms of a career prospect. They can be neat hobbies though
Jeremiah Morgan
That's basically my home except I have shitter views
Gavin Richardson
AssociateofApplied ScienceinNursing
Christian Ramirez
Logistics is patrician if you can get in to management.
Jack Edwards
I ignored it cause it’s shit and really not comparable to those listed
Nathaniel Sanders
Yes, go into 300k debt to become a Doktar and work insane hours, get paid minimum wage in residency and come out after 10+ years and make a measely 160k. Brilliant.
Hunter Howard
>get paid minimum wage in residency and come out after 10+ years and make a measely 160k And all of that to prove to yourself that you're "alpha" lol
Easton Ward
This looks like a suicide room, no wonder so many people get cancer from all this WIFI, your mouse is even Bluetooth! I hope your still on 4G, because when 5G comes its over !
Cons >not a doctor, less respect from randoms (if you care about this) >Look at mouths (same argument can be had for other medical Jobs)
Carter Perez
Enjoy overmedicating your kids, paying insurance, and grinding through patients without ever helping them because pharm is ready to fuck you up as well as insurance any just about anyone else.
Asher Lopez
Also nurse here. I started over 100K/year with great benefits as a new grad (west coast US), not bad for 36 hours a week. I work in a very busy ER so high stress and high bullshit however the work for now is meaningful and stimulating and I can challenge myself as much as I want. The public trusts and respects my position. Male RNs are treated great by management, docs, and other staff, and if you are a personable single guy your coworkers will be tripping over each other trying to land you pussy. Downsides: everybody is burned out especially post-COVID, every day holds potential to be physically assaulted, if I fuck up I can kill people, and 90% of my patients are whiny entitled faggots who don't need emergency care. Now that I have several years of experience it feels good knowing I can land a job anywhere in the country in diverse settings if I want.
The ER docs seem comfy as fuck once they get through their nervous first year or two. They always have the specter of a devastating malpractice lawsuit over their heads but mostly don't seem to give a fuck. They work pretty normal hours and get to enjoy life outside of the hospital.
Obviously varies geographically but in many places healthcare pays great right now and more people should consider it.
Angel Baker
Ps great job on covid. Lmao.
Jose Green
>I care much more about having time to pursue working out, meeting people, and especially deeply connecting with women. wow you might be the first guy making 170k i've heard say that
Daniel Perry
nah it's a gay career. i dropped out of a US MD school after 1 semester because it's just mindlessly memorizing massive amounts of information for 4 years, graduating with $300k loans @ 5% interest, and then working 80 hours a week for 3+ years of residency/fellowship and then 50-60 hours a week for the rest of your life because a 40 hour week in medicine is pretty much non-existent unless you're in a lower paying specialty like FM/peds.
Owen Barnes
Doctor is worse than both FANG and finance, at least finance has the potential for real money and FANG has the potential for 40h/week The only edge being a doctor has is impressing simpletons which is worth $0 and you should be ashamed for suggesting it on a finance board