Wtf even is the job market in 2021????

serious answers only i dont have faith in college and i was previously let go as an apprentice auto mechanic. pay was a meager 16.50 CAD/hr despite teachers not being able to stfu on how mechanics/trades were in demand and a high paying job, is the economy just permafried at this point?

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Yup. Only people making money is amazon, Uber, and internet celebrities.

100% german

Fuck knows, mate. I was furloughed for most of the year and trying to find new employment has been an absolute nightmare. Likely only going to get worse. Best of luck to you user, we’re both gonna need it

Onlyfans or YouTube star are the only upwardly mobile careers left to the working class.

The 'truth' is very bitter. They are constantly shilling the high demand for engineers and software developers in western countries. However, they are not telling you that they are just looking for cheap cattle to drain. You'll probably earn average when getting a degree in engineering but you won't get rich from it. Also, if you were thinking about buying real estate and finance it with your income you are completely wrong. Prices are through the roof since about ten years and you won't be able to afford a house. Honestly, the situation is really fucked and I have no idea where all the money went. The system is in maximum slavery mode right now

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t. accountant

Lol get in the Amazon wage cage cattle
We've got orders to pick

Whats your discord? I need to ask you some questions

>Extrapolates his apprenticeship at some guy's mechanic shop as an illustration of the whole economy

Nigger any white collar job is doing great right now
White collar workers have never been richer as they are right now
Especially in the US
Blue collar workers likewise. More money in their bank accounts every month. You had a shit collar job, not even a job
Literally go become a mechanic for Chrysler or something and you'll see how much more you'll make. Don't be an apprentice at some guy's mechanic store and think because he laid you off because his business isn't doing as much right now you and the country as a whole are fucked

I couldn't get a decent job with my degree.
Did the learn to code meme. Turns out it's not a meme and really easy. I got a job after a weekend of applying. Only have 1.5 years experience and already have recruiters contacting me regularly
>t. Fellow leaf

Did you go back to college?

HONK HONK

i like reading about the software developer dichotomy.

>IT'S FUCKING IMPOSIBLE TO GET A JOB! I HAVE A BSCS, A GITHUB, KNOW 3 IN-DEMAND FRAMEWORKS, AND STUDIED LEETCODE MEDIUMS FOR 6 MONTHS! I DID 400 APPLICATIONS, COMPLETED FOUR 15 HOUR INTERVIEWS, AND GOT REJECTED FROM ALL! THIS IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE!
>i taught myself how to code and got a job after 3 applications.

I did tutorials online and built a portfolio. I wasn't that confident at the time, so I went to a technical college for 1 semester, then applied to some places, got multiple offers and dropped out. There wasn't any really point of me going back for that semester I just lacked the confidence.
Yeah I see that posted here a lot as well. Maybe it's easier in Canada? Idk, I don't think I just got lucky because like I said I had multiple offers but it's possible

this

My original degree was in Chemistry I should say, which I have never seen mentioned in dev positions (it's usually Physics or Math) but it's possible that helped show I'm not a complete brainlet

So you were self learned? Can you recommend where to start?

Yeah it's fucked in Canada. Just collecting the gibs, converting them into cash, and then converting the cash into assets until it crashes. The way I see it, either Trump wins and it gives NA a new course of action (a good reset) or Biden wins and we fully descend into globalist hellscape and they finish their plans for total enslavement. Either way, a reset is coming, good or bad, western society is too bloated and stagnant now.

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Its simple user, there is one keyword your message still doesnt contain. And that same keyword exists here

I used teamtreehouse.com to start with zero knowledge. You have to pay $25 / mo, but it's set up in a way that makes starting from scratch super easy.

I did all the Java and Python courses on there and built the course projects. I used the Django knowledge to make a couple sites, and random little Python tools and that was it. I'd say the best thing to learn for quickest entry is a JavaScript framework, either React or Angular (they have react on treehouse) and a backend framework like Django, NodeJS, or Spring Boot, which are on treehouse as well.

Once you have the basics you can cancel your subscription and just try your best to build stuff. Use stackoverflow or YouTube videos to help if needed, but you just have to grind through the learning process

luck?

Wtf but I dont have any way to pay for that subscription stuff. Thanks btw. Might find some pirated version of it lying online somewhere.

Yeah OP it's competitive and I fell for the engineering is a meme. I had never even heard of investment banking, private equity, BigLaw, mgmt consulting, etc. etc. Until I was too deep into my EE degree to pivot in undergrad within the framework of my academic scholarship which covered 8 semesters.

I'm 22 now and there is zero chance I stay in engineering by the time I'm 32. I'm thinking patent law, or banking as what I want to switch too. Luckily EE patent law happens to be the most lucrative so I've heard. I had numerous professors saying they don't know a single one that makes less that $350k a year. Salary increase in patent law is ~7.5% a year, in engineering it's typically ~3%.

I'm going to take both the GMAT and LSAT and see what I can swing. I've heard school matters less for patent law but it's still important to a degree and obviously the Stanford, MIT, patent lawyers get top firms and recruiting trickles down from there.

You can use something like freecodecamp, edx, or YouTube and it's probably just as good, no need to pay. I was just speaking to what I did. It only took me a couple months to do everything on there I needed so it wasn't too bad

Portfolio nigger.
You can have the biggest shit credentials on the planet.
Shipping a product speaks volumes.
I know this for a fact because I mention shit I made in cover letters all the time. I have two shipped products.
My reply rate isnt perfect but it isnt as bad as people make it sound, I am a grad but has nothing to do with dev, yet I applied to dev jobs.
Make shit nigger. Ship stuff, or become a serious contributor to open source projects. Being a cs grad is a plus but it doesnt guarantee shit if youre a lazyfag.

No. I'm am engineer and got laid off in April. Theres thousands of unemployed engineers in canada right now. Shit is fucked. Equities are way overpriced and commodities are suppressed.

>uber
Lmao

I'd add to this because I've worked with interns who are CS grads with really good grades that are completely trash at actually developing because CS is mostly theoretical and they didn't put in any effort to learn on their own. The ones that might be underperformers in school but actually have projects are a lot better