In reality, PNK is the most successful project in crypto, yet it's only rank 137, for now.
>most USED crypto court >most cases >most transactions
Kleros doesn't deal in "promises". It's actually changing the world in real time as we speak, unlike shitcoins shilled here. Be wiser.
Think about this : if Kleros didn't exist, the entire crypto-space would collapse. ETH is so important that crypto CANNOT live without it.
Kleros is the future. And PNK flipping bitcoin is inevitable when crypto trading becomes common.
Think. About. It.
Third-worlders will try to shill their shitcoins in this thread, be wary.
Isaac Perry
>Third-worlders will try to shill their shitcoins in this thread, be wary. Didn't read. India is a shit country.
Asher Scott
also check them
Isaiah Miller
Taking ETH inflation into account the long term value of ETH is around 0.1 BTC. Since ETH current price is 0.027 BTC there is still a lot of upside left.
Xavier King
>Think. About. It.
Bitcoin is the future store of value, so over the years it's going to eat up golds market dominance. Even going to 100k would be realistic in the short term due to simple supply demand economics.
ETH has the problem of being a useful chain with no useful projects on it. Nothing profitable in 5 years, no use cases. Thousands of dead "projects".
ETH is my #2, but I'm all in Bitcoin.
Ian Garcia
BTC is on ETH. Kek
Jordan Bennett
>no use cases kleros sir
Elijah Price
Buy eth and link fuck everything else. BTC is an ancient technology already.
Cooper Ward
You cannot negate most of ETH MC is literally a bunch of shit projects and pump and dumps.
Luis Taylor
Yeah, well just watch wBTC climb the charts. Wouldn't be surprised if it hits #2, that would be telling you something.
Austin Wright
Kleros court? That is such a dorky project. In all honesty that's one of the few projects where if it fucking mooned and found a real use case in the world I wouldn't be salty at all and so happy for all the investors. I really hope you guys make it.
there's no point for ethereum to exist. it will die out
Robert Gonzalez
try doing defi on bitcoin try making lending markets, try making a DEX. I don't even need binance or any other centralized exchange anymore, I can swap from ETH to BTC without any chink getting access to my funds by just swapping to renBTC on Uniswap and redeeming it to my BTC wallet. ETH is unironically huge and you don't get it.
Michael Sanders
>Curve >Compound >Uniswap >LINK >not useful kek
Meanwhile, Lightning Network is still shit
Levi Hall
i use ETH almost every day
Aiden Barnes
ETH is the most safe and highest yielding long-term crypto investment. It is an investment in the infrastructure that will run finance, the internet and many other things in the future. Fully rolled out ETH 2.0 and a supply cap with EIP-1559 will cause this shit to go to $10,000 a piece.
Jaxson Foster
fuck it last 4 numbers of my post are ETH price EOY December 31.
That wouid be telling you that ETH is more useful than BTC, because most people would just use BTC on ETH instead of the actual BTC chain. Why? Because you can trade BTC in a decentralized fashion and earn interest on your BTC with ETH. Also transactions are generally cheaper and confirm much faster.
Matthew Long
Agree somewhat on DeFi, it's the only hope other cryptocurrencies have IMO. So many projects have come and gone, intelligent people, partnerships, roadmaps, all of it led to no adoption or profitability. DeFi is crypto for crypto's sake. Not dependent on roadmaps or partnerships, finally. But it's in its infancy and will need to prove itself. As of now it's typical crypto booms and busts, inflation and arbitrage.
Whereas Bitcoin I can understand now and others can too. I hope ETH succeeds in a large way, but they've got a long way to go.
Tyler Wood
No, it'd be telling you that Bitcoin won and won everything.
I guess I'm old school, I don't like holding my Bitcoin on exchanges/3rd parties for very long. I'm 100% cold storage. If people want to entrust their coins elsewhere that's cool though, I think we've come a long way from MtGox. I have very high expectations for Bitcoin and therefore am okay with missing out on interest payments if what I'm holding is going to the fucking moon.
Ayden Roberts
ETHs moat is that it’s hard to bridge liquidity cross chain. If this becomes readily available, it is much harder to make the case that eth has the monopoly on useful DeFi applications. Liquidity is not loyal. It will flock to greener pastures if there is an opening. Wbtc dominating on eth is a testament to the necessity of btc, not the usefulness of eth
Leo Reed
IT CAN'T FUCKING SCALE. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THIS?!?!
ETH is pure spaghetti code. ETH was without a doubt a great idea; I will not deny that at all. However, most people in crypto don't have the comprehension or knowledge to be able and look at the code-base and identify flaws that could be catastrophic, both in terms of economic, security, and overall functioning in cost signals.
Vitalik is smart. However, he's the most retarded smart person in all of crypto. He's a fucking child who doesn't own up to his inability to produce a creation and has longevity. Him and his cronies wrote shitty-ass code. It can't scale. The only way it can scale is constant upgrades each time they feel things are getting congested. This is where the problem lies. It is impossible for ETH to implement a scaling solution to where it doesn't need upgrades anymore. For ETH to work, it will need constant upgrades of ETH 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, so on and so forth for an indefinite amount of time - just kicking the can down the road. Off-chain scaling won't work either because ETH's security is already shit on a stick. Making something more complicated that is already a piece of shit is 100% pointless. People can never steadily develop something on ETH because with each 'scaling upgrade', those who are creating on ETH will have to pivot each time to ensure their product is compatible to work on ETH. To sum it up, each time ETH decides to upgrade to scale, it just gets worse.
For ETH to work to the level needed, the amount of ETH in ever single wallet needs to be known after each transaction. Since ETH cannot implement SPV, it's impossible for ETH to scale because it does not have the capabilities to know the exact amount of ETH in every single ETH wallet after each transaction at a massive scale.
The only way to permanently fix ETH would be to roll back the chain to the beginning almost. Vitalik is just your average Russian retard who can't produce anything of value.
Samuel Powell
misspelled ada
Justin Ward
Holy crap this is so old. It's bizaare how such a vapid copypasta can survive so long.
Henry Jones
I'm thinking Tomochain. Zoom out on ETH. It's a fucking ICO and was 50 cents. LEL.
Gabriel Harris
i don't mean to be rude, but are you retarded? do you even know what wBTC is?
Joshua Rogers
PRICED IN
Carson Allen
But what about the infinite supply?
Easton Adams
And what greener pastures will that be, exactly? ETH is the only fully functional PoW smart contracts blockchain. You cannot have liquidity on a BTC DEX because there isn't one. If you seriously think that some other blockchain like Polkadot will overtake ETH, that's a totally different discussion, but you'd still be wrong.
Eli Russell
>i don't mean to be rude No it's cool get it all out
I've used wBTC before yes. Call me crazy I like my Bitcoin on Bitcoin.
Xavier Nguyen
and so you understand people are moving BTC to Ethereum so they can actually fucking use it, right?
checked. I would not hold wbtc for a long time. you need to trust the chink exchange behind it.
Ryder Robinson
You think that is the case because you conflate bitcoins narrative with Ethereums. Unfortunately for Ethereum, it can’t have the money narrative. They tried, it was kind of cringe. It survives by its continued utility as a smart contract platform. Well, there’s no way to enforce its dominion over that role, it’s easy not to have brand loyalty to eth. Sure there isn’t a clear usurper today but all I’m saying is it’s much easier to replace eths role than btc’s
Matthew Adams
100% cold storage now. People miss the bigger picture with Bitcoin. Chasing APY on an asset that's designed to break APY.
