Privacy coins

What alternatives are there to XMR? Would there ever be a need for an alternative, even? Redpoll me.

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There are other coins that try to do privacy, but privacy by default is the most secure and Monero does this best.

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Did someone say red/pol/?

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There are a couple, but most are pointless
Dash is garbage, Zcash has optional privacy, which isn't great, but zksnarks is good tech
the MW based coins like BEAM and GRIN offer some value apart from XMR, in that they store way less info on chain. BEAM also has atomic swaps. Only problem is the MW coins haven't really caught on and have been dumping nonstop. Probably because it's so difficult to explain why MW matters and how it works.

>What alternatives are there to XMR?
there aren't any worth noting.
>Would there ever be a need for an alternative, even?
Probably not.

doesnt ltc have mw implemented?

XMR isn't broken in anyway right? What incentive would someone have in switching to another privacy coin if XMR is working fine?

>need a cheaper alternative, $120 per privacy coin is too expensive
is this where you are going with this thread?

on the testnet I think, the mainnet sidechain isn't ready yet as far as I know.
MW as a sidechain is cool, and might help with scaling and privacy, but would essentially amount to an optional privacy model like zcash, so not quite as good IMO. Although I think it's a good addition to LTC