What is the /biz (smartest people on the planet) stance on artificial sweeteners?

What is the /biz (smartest people on the planet) stance on artificial sweeteners?
I love my boomer drinks but when I turned 28 I started getting fat and unhealthy (sedentary gamer life)
I started healthy diet, working out, nofap (well, less fap kek) and ditched my sugar drinks for artificial sweeteners
Started with sucralose. Ehh. After about 3-4 months I actually gained weight, got depressed and wanted to kill myself ( I shit you not) and it went away when I switched back to sugar
So I gave it another shot this time aspartame. It was giving me anxiety but I was not hungry as fucking dog all the time like with sucralose.
After about a year of daily dose of aspartame I realized that maybe it does affect me mentally in a bad way so ditched it for few days.
Turned out it was literally changing me from inside out. My personality completely changed.
Im back to sugar. Best shape of my life.
Anyone has a story?

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Just drink water

I literally can't imagine drinking anything else than water and milk
you people are faggots

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no can do... just nope. Fuck it. Yolo. I need at least some form of bad for you but so good for you thingy in my fucking life

anything that is sweet and is not common sugar is dangerous just because your body expects sugar and prepares for it but doesnt get sugar.

weak mindset but if you want that try women kek

High fructose corn syrup withdrawal and use upsets my stomach and gives me headaches. It also makes me sleepy sometimes. I make better crypto decisions on Monster Ultra.

If I really want to fly with the eagles I drink a NOS, or 240MG caffeine Rockstar (sugar free).

Diet Coke probably gave me the worst anxiety.

Drink decent kombucha with no sweetener. Good for your guts and fulfils the need for flavor and bubbles

Drink homebrew tea, unsweetened
Or add some honey if you really crave liquid sugars

Thats cause youre a poor pajeet and your village has 1 goat.

I fucking love the artifical sweetners. I drink a shit ton, so if I go back to sugary drinks I swing like +1000 calories. I don't mind going either way. As long as you maintain calories it doesn't matter wtf you eat its a thermodynamic law.

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fuck you we have 2 goats

Just count your calories, retard. You can eat whatever trash you want as long as it fits your macros and you count your calories.

This, plus sugar in "modern" diet quantities is carcinogenic. Weakens cell walls and pushes you towards type 2 and type 3 (alzheimers) diabetes.

with sucralose it was impossible because it was making me hungry as fuck. I was literally eating 2-3x more food than before. Aspartame is better in this regard but it changes my personality. I was not going anywhere. Was actually having a social anxiety but I was using it for so long that I just got used to it as if it was normal

monster ultra zero has erythritol not aspartame. purportedly it's "better"

since when??? Maybe its only in your country because here it is and always was sucralose

>it was impossible because it was making me hungry as fuck.
No, you just have no fucking willpower because you're a fat pussy. If hunger bothers you that much, do a keto diet, boom no more hunger ever.

Can confirm, in Canada for sure.

Monster Zero Ultra TM has Erythritol here, it causes the drink to actually have 10 cals.

Can confirm 5 day fasts working manual lavor

willpower? what the fuck. I listen to my body. I dont count calories or any of this faggot shit. It was making me so hungry.. all the time. Do people just calculate their pussy ass calories and then just suffer throught the hunge?? KEK. In this case, just drink water and eat dissolved fat... maybe go hug a tree, fag

You all need to grow up and start drinking black coffee like a man. Energy drinks are for children.

Aspartame fucks with hormone levels in the brain and is addictive in some. Also it's quite possibly carcinogenic.

I'm not the one complaining that I can't control my weight on the wrong board, idiot.

Maybe you didnt read all of it. Im in the best shape of my life at the moment. Not giving shit about calories. Thread was about artificial sweeteners and its effects on mental and physical health

You had sugar withdrawals. If you really think it's the artificial sweeteners, cut out both the artificial sweeteners and the sugar for a period of no less than four weeks and see how you feel. You won't because you're a fat pussy with no willpower.

>3
bro, at this point youre just projecting or something. I switched in between all of them in matter of months to be sure. Also, Im literally not fat. Im fucking fit.

They nuke your gut bacteria. Thread

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Sugar is not good for you. I don’t think there is any evidence that showing that artificial sweeteners (the popular ones, at least) are harmful.
But really, just drink water/tea/coffee

artificial sweeteners are actually worse than sugar.
everything has a price. just do some more exercise if you eat more sugar.
sugar = atp
burn atp

some people say this.. some that. Some studies blubies mubies kek. What I wanted to talk about is stories, realy people trying something similar to me. All is good now tho, for me. Sugar is just better. For me

For things I haven't personally experienced, I tend to make decisions based on scientific studies. Your experience provides reinforcing evidence.
nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199402033300501
just one example