How long from here do you expect btc - eth flipenning?

Do you belive that eth will flip btc in marketcap?
If so, when?

For me eth usefullness seems way better than btc, currently btc is widely known, but how long while media turns to eth? What would give it a boost?

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they are attempting to solve completely different problems and aren't in competition

i see it like btc is just a coin which could be replaced by anyother.

Ethereum is a platform, which has many usecases, including using as a coin /store of value in the future.

If PoS transition succeeds it will be greener, more secure, capable of more tps, and an environment for developers to build the next generation of financial products. If that comes true, why would anyone want to use btc?

with eip-1559 ethereum inflation become non-existent.

> with eip-1559 ethereum inflation become non-existent.

it is not granted, but could become

BTC-store of value
ETH- creator of value

It's a different objective.

What gives value to BTC?

Ethereum would gain value from the usage and giving oppurtinity to build innovative products on it.

Why wouldnt take the directive the store of value directive from btc?

Pretty sure that ether will be used as collateral to earn yield within the ecosystem. But BTC on BTC?

Get the fuck out of here reddit newfaggot, you're asking old as fuck questions and 2017 wants its shitcoiner narratives back. Stay poor.

Would like to know about your opinion, how do you see?

Eth flips BTC within two years if PoS works out. Then DOT flips Eth a year after that.

This question is not a personal threat.
You and me are here to earn money.
So if we throw together what we have we migth see the future more clear.

I have not followed DOT. What apps are being built on it?

Eth is great, flip will never happen though because btc is gonna be future store of value

LINK, Ocean, lots of DeFi. I believe it has the second highest amount of development activity after Eth.
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>btc is gonna be future store of value
Why? Remember, Eth came close to flipping BTC in 2017.

Those are on eth as well.
I see ethereum value in its ecosystem, there are 1000s of developer building on it. Many apps are already live.

Do you see those developers leaving ethereum?

it was kinda close, but not that close, ~3x away from btc marketcap.

>Do you see those developers leaving ethereum?
No, I don't. But the DOT infrastructure makes it easy for developers to create their own blockchain, not just their own ERC-20 token and that's potentially a big deal.

What gives value to btc?

number go up

I have not paid attention for dot, but what are the usage oppurtinites to have an own blockchain?

Eth already collects 3x more transactions fees than BTC and has more nodes. It's just a matter of time for the price to catch up to reality.

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i dont know if its a real answer or just trolling :D

Probably late 2022 when NFT and blockchain gaming starts to mature. Unless ETH developers can’t get their shit together and fees remain high

ETH is unusable as long as you require ETH for gas fees when moving ERC-tokens.

Not every new idea works as an ERC20 token. With your own blockchain, you get to decide the settlement time, governance, how nodes work, etc. The downside to that is that programming a new blockchain from scratch is time consuming, error prone, and expensive. DOT has tools and infrastructure that streamline the process and allow your chain to interact with any other DOT hosted parachain.

What would make people belive in btc when there are platfroms building the future innovative financial products on other blockchain, while btc is only slow behemoth?

Using eth as gas gives value to eth, as you are required eth to use ethereum's applications.

Infinite supply

And yet people still pay to use it. That means there's more economic value. Eth is 3x more valuable than BTC based on fees. If that were not true, then people wouldn't be willing to pay the premium.

On ethereum not everything is an ERC-20 token. For example, issuing dai for collaterals.
Lending crypto assets and borrowing is an application without the need of a token (however they have one).
decentralized exchanges is also an application.

Like what apps would need an own blockchain?

Nobody cares alternatives, nomatter how much better those are

SoV are binary options. they either succeed or they don't - the bigger a SoV gets, then the bigger it gets. Gold won that war in previous centuries - it took 95% of market and relegated every other competitor to fight amongst themselves in the remaining 5% area.
BTC is either going to $4M per coin or to $0. No other option exist for it.

ETH on the otherhand is a programming stack. It can exist forever at $300, $500, $1000 - it may exist for 30+ years, and you will be using your "dApp" but maybe price is sitting at $920.
This isn't a rant against ETH, its an attempt to get you to understand the market better. As a "utility coin", in the end its going to arrive at some price which is marginally above its cost....no different than the price of a pizza delivery or whatever. Competition in the utility space will force razor thin margins.

Yes, this is a valid argument.
For the counterpoint, there is an ongoing ethereum protocol change development, where every transaction will burn some eth.
If we check the defi bull run and the usage of ethereum, it seems that the burn rate might turn the eth issuance inflation rate to 0%.

It is not something for sure, but it is possible.

Other counterpoint, if btc issuance drops to a level where miners are not paid enough to secure the chain, they will leave and the hashpower will drop to a level, where 51% attack will be "cheap enough" to be made.
This is seems as a real problem for bitcoin in the long run. Like 3-4 halvening away.

>Like what apps would need an own blockchain
Any app that doesn't want to be tied to a single blockchain they don't control.

I do not see ethereum as an alternative of bitcoin. but an innovative new product with much more capabilities.

Like steem powered vehicle vs electric vehicle.

It is the most serious answer you will ever receive on the subject.

It was about btc, ethereum and btc are here to stay. Everything else is shit, but eth wont flip btc

Yeah, i can see private sectors would want their own chain.

>solve completely different problems
yes, in 20 years we will look back and laugh at the idea that people were thinking it was ETH or BTC. Its like being in 1995 and saying, what do you think I should invest in??? SQL Databases or TCP/IP?

Personally I hate having to share this space with "faggy php programmers" they universally miss the point and generally are forever poorfags. It would be much better if we could push them to stupid sites like hackernews were they could argue about "features". They've been trained to look at everything as a feature-matrix (good goy consoomer training), and thus they can't really understand economics or finance which is more about structural relations of the world and human incentives.