Xcm bond

If your intention is to speculate on the growth of coinmetro, you're better off buying xcm directly. Easier to take profits on pumps or cash out quickly.

To me personally the bond smells like a sucker's deal and locking up capital for a puny 12% p.a. isn't my cup of tea

That's not to say I'd discourage others from buying the bond. Xcm holders will benefit the most from bond holders locking up their own money to help the company grow

makes sense, then'll probably look into buying xcm but with less % networth

The bonds are tokenised, and CM will have a secondary market for them.

This is all part of CM's 'vision', tokenised bond offerings and a secondary market on which they may be traded. IF you buy into the vision laid out by the CEO, the argument is that this is what will make CM truly stand out in the long term - they're ultimately aiming to revolutionise finance, as opposed to just trying to be another crypto exchange. I'd suggest OP really gets his head around this and the implications of it, and whether he thinks there is truly a demand for it, since it's probably the fundamental reason to invest in CM to begin with.

CM CEO is currently claiming that institutional investors are coming in January. I want to believe him, but this kind of thing has been thrown around before, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

What does this mean for you? I'd recommend buying whatever XCM you want by the beginning of Jan, and if the price hasn't moved by end of Q1, I'd get the fuck out and never look back.

CM has dragged along for three years now. It's done some cool things, but ultimately, if there isn't the influx of cash and marketing that the CEO claims to have ready in early Q1, I'd say that the time has come to give up on it. Don't get fixated on bullshit like XCM staking - only a massive surge in trade volume from new customers will drive the price up, and I'd further argue that these customers have to arrive before the end of the current bull market.

Promising? Really?!

The only thing that stops me from throwing a few 100s into the bond is the secondary market. The interest in the bond is pretty low right now, why should that be different in the secondary market? What if you should urgently need your money but no buying interest for the bond tokens? Need to sell that way below market price, then that 8-12 % interest is pretty useless.

This bond is tailor made for traditional investors, not for biz crypto folks.

seems like a good idea right? just like buying the token at ICO was a good idea r-right? or just like buying XCM every time it's been shilled in here over the last few years was a good idea R-R-RIGHT??

good point, but i actually not only think that its growing, im literally seeing it every day
just a few months ago cm threads barely had any people in them
and the exchange is getting better by the day

the low fees initially caused me to switch, and i don't see a reason why people would want to get fucked over by chinks

Well, the bond effectively guarantees XCM at a price of €0.2. So arguably, IF the price of XCM goes past €0.2, people would be falling over themselves to buy the bond off of you. As such, I'd say that if you think that CM has any sort of future, you shouldn't worry about not being able to sell the bonds after about the end of Q1 2021 or so, once XCM has risen in price.

So then the real question, if you think CM has a future, why not just buy XCM at €0.05? I'd suggest that the only reason is if you're interested in the growth token, and I think that's where you have to really be doing your research if you're thinking about buying into the bond. The growth token could be a really fucking big deal IF CM does become the market leader in tokenised securities, etc.

Fyi, personally I'm 80/20 XCM/Bond

because you should invest at least 50%

Yeah, you're right. It has grown a lot. And don't get me wrong, I use CM and hold a pretty big bag of XCM.

But, there are two things that worry me:

1. The offer vs the demand for it. As good as CM is, I don't know if it offers what most crypto speculators and traders want - a big selection of shitcoins and massive liquidity. I get why this is, but it still worries me about whether CM will be able to take big marketshare from Coinbase and especially Binance. And if CM is not going after that audience, then their marketing will have to be fucking incredible to get normies looking for good customer service, tokenised bonds, and vetted projects on to CM. And their marketing has certainly not been fucking incredible thus far.

2. Tokenomics. The extent to which growth in CM will really drive XCM. The transaction fees are minuscule, and at least half will ultimately be market sold by CM as income. XCM has no trade or appeal outside of CM, and if it's price does increase you are not going to see many people buying up $50K worth of XCM to get a 20% discount on trades.

Like I said before, I'm aiming to hold until end of Q1, but will be very conscious of signs to get the fuck out of dodge. IF the investors don't materialise, marketing doesn't happen, XCM will NEVER sustainably climb above ten cents or so, no matter how good the exchange is. We also have to be weary of the looming end of the bull market- good luck growing trade volumes when BTC shits itself again.

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>And their marketing has certainly not been fucking incredible thus far.
The only marketing they need is to somehow replicate what raiblocks did to reddit.
And I really believe this might happen, and not only reddit, also biz and other hiveminds
we need people to hype the fuck out of metro, about how it is the best exchange with a good ceo and the lowest fees etc, and the best part is it's the truth, so people will have an easier time to actually support it

imagine if raiblocks didn't have instant tx, and it was just vaporware, reddit would have never shilled it this hard
so again, that's why I think it will happen rather than if it will happen.
we just need a single post to make it to the font page

same with biz, and it's already happening with biz, just a few months ago cm threads were barely alive for 40min

>but will be very conscious of signs to get the fuck out of dodge. IF the investors don't materialise
I don't know if you want to but can you please confront him with that fact tomorrow live on the ama?

>We also have to be weary of the looming end of the bull market
kevin said there will be massive profit taking in January, you think this could be it? the end of the stock bubble

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See, I know exactly where you're coming from with this idea of a kind of 'viral' uptake of CM. The main issue I have with this is - if it was going to happen, why didn't it happen already? CM had Link before basically anyone else, same with Quant and Parsiq. CM has had the lowest fees and the most transparent CEO forever. What's changed? I don't see any reason why these things are suddenly going to catapult CM to the front page of r/crypto, or whatever. And I'd be weary of reading too much in to CM threads on biz - there were much bigger threads in 2018 and 2019.

I'm afraid I can't - I'm a Brit, I'm at work when the AMAs are on. Search 'Investors' on the Telegram group, or 'Coinmetro investors' on the biz archive, and you'll see this has been thrown around for years without any apparent effect.

See, I called the end of the bubble in November, so I now accept that I don't understand this current cycle, and can't predict it. I feel like it probably is a little exceptional, and has a while left to run, but definitely not long enough for CM to fuck around not advertising and grabbing trade share. Especially if we hit an alt market and they get caught with their pants down not offering any of the alts on demand.

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Witnessed

It's a save bet. I'm already in.

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>if it was going to happen, why didn't it happen already?
Obviously because the site/ui/kyc was absolute dogshit, its still not state of the art right now, but it's better, and I hope it will get even better
kev proved that to me at least by saying he doesn't like the app, the new one, the one that's about to release this week or so
and that hes going to make a new one, and im so fucking glad he said that.

also, people don't shill, that often, maybe they want to buy a bag first and others haven't even heard of it yet.

>I'm at work when the AMAs are on.
alright give me something i should ask him and i will

Wen investors 4real

I mean, maybe people aren't shilling so they can accumulate bags, but they've had three fucking years. I'd say that's at least a decade in crypto years - we've been through an entire boom-bust-mini-boom-mini-bust-boom cycle ffs.

And again, it's honestly great that Kev and Oliver admit that the app is shit. BUT, why wasn't this more of a priority? It makes the team seem horrendously out of touch. What are they smoking that they thought that a tokenised property bond (whilst admittedly something with great long-term potential) would draw more people to CM than a useable mobile app?

Ask him for more detail on the investors, if you'd be so kind. Obviously Kev can't give away their deets, but how did they hear about Coinmetro? Why now? Are they the same investors talked about in 2019 and Q1 2020? And if so, why are they only investing/investing substantially more now? What due diligence did the investors do on the company, that made them choose CM over Bitpanda or whatever the fuck?

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Based. How big is your stack?

>$20k in daily volume.

What else do you need to know?
Kevin doesn’t have what it takes to get you in profit.
It’s been 3 fucking years of this BS
Assblaster was wrong. Move on Anons

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You're forgetting the 4 hands worth of users

he obviously referred to xcm trade volume, not exchange volume
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