>be independent tech contractor with 7 years of experience >get hired by companies to build and fix shit when they do not have the resources to do it themselves >charge a decent rate but zero strings attached and they can terminate me whenever they want if they are not happy with almost zero notice >every client I've had has positive reviews
Fast-forward to clownworld late-stage 2020:
>looking for new contracts for 2021 >get in touch with a company offering an interesting problem >have to do technical interview brainteaser BS with company, pass with flying colours >thought I had this in the bag >have to do some retarded behavioural interview, cringe at the thought >get asked questions about past experience, thought it went well
>failed and no offer because didn't use enough buzzwords about scrum and agile and interviewer gave close to zero feedback
This shit is so incredibly ridiculous that it drives me insane. I can understand they want to be careful if they are hiring someone who is going to join them for the long-haul, but I'm not a fucking employee and if they think I'm inexperienced or if I'm an asshole just fucking fire me instead of wasting my time with pointless interviews.
All of corporate America is going NWOW/Agile. Stay at a smaller firm, it'll make your keys
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Gavin Hill
I don't mind agile and I think doing iterative development is important, but what I do not understand is why these companies filter for people who just memorise all the fucking ceremonies and the details of the process instead of knowing how to do the actual work or simply how to efficiently work with other people regardless of process.
What pisses me off is how dehumanising it all is, like you're a cog in the machine, and this is something I thought I would get away from by being an independent contractor but alas.
Alexander Jenkins
you don't sound like you're a contractor, you just sound like a wagie who accepts bad terms why did you do a shitty interview if ur a contractor?
Thomas Flores
This. You need to bend the knee to globohomodiversity mamas.
You have a point but the market is pretty dead right now and I need the money, last year was a very different story. Normally I would refuse these terms but god knows what 2021 has in store for us.
Noah Green
How else would the recruiting industry make their millions?
Lincoln Brown
you vill eat ze bugs.
Grayson Reyes
and like it
Austin Hernandez
The funny thing about agile is that it led to a lot of really good practices. Version control, continuous integration, TDD, iterative development, and DevOps weren't invented by agile, but they became widely adopted thanks to agile. All these practices came about because the original agile manifesto was trying to give the middle finger to management and went ahead with it. Modern Agile™ is middle management trying to get in on it, not realising that bypassing them was the reason it started in the first place.
Oliver Thompson
Modern agile/NWOW is the only thing that exists in corporate America and middle management is making it worse by being more involved than they were before.
Juan Price
It's not just recruiters, they are also pissed off about this because actually good candidates they submit to companies are getting rejected because of this retarded mechanical interviewing process that selects for people who memorise shit and not for decent people.
The fucked up part is that in my industry (tech) there is a legit shortage of good senior developers, yet companies pull shit like this and wonder why they can't hire anyone. Can someone explain this logic to me?
Noah Cook
>failed and no offer because didn't use enough buzzwords about scrum and agile and interviewer gave close to zero feedback How do you know that's why you failed then?
Grayson Young
I'm based in the EU and not America, but nonetheless the same phenomenon can be observed here. It's also worse here because software engineers are considered low-status plebs by managers so the problem just gets amplified.
Bentley Martinez
This. user, you're a free agent. Don't do dehumanizing interviews. You let them waste your time on stupid bullshit, don't ever do that again.
Anthony Morgan
I've done interviews. A buzzword quota is literally part of the assessment.
Owen Sanchez
Seems like you werent hot enough for stacey? Do you do financials? The company I work for hires a shitton of contractors through a consultant.
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Christopher Cox
Because the feedback was literally "didn't demonstrate enough understanding of Agile™ processes" despite the fact that I have literally led teams that have delivered large business-critical projects far ahead of schedule precisely because I ensured said teams didn't focus too much on the tedium of process.
Hudson Clark
I am specialised in fintech yes, what rates are you paying and is it tech-oriented?
Also, the interviewer was unironically a woman, surprise surprise.
Sebastian Cook
>be me >work in tech >study at home as a n33t for years >work for a few years and gain experience in small jobs here and there >finally I can step into the real world >spend 99% of my time cleaning up after companies that hired super cheap indian devs who half built the project before running off with the money >the feels man >atleast the money is ok and as long as a pajeet exists to fuck things up I will never be out of work
Aiden Watson
Hiring managers and HR in general are nothing but a drag on the success of a company. they are all just box-ticking drones who actually know nothing about the business they work in other than HR bullshit. they literally just stand in the way of the fluid movement of talent into roles. i make a point of only hiring autodidact applicants, with only 1 exception in 14yrs - self taught people walk the walk in my biz, college is expensive daycare.....
Tyler Rodriguez
>Also, the interviewer was unironically a woman, surprise surprise. Well I hope you learned your lesson and won't make the mistake of working with a woman ever again.
Asher Scott
Tell me about it, what's worse is when you have managers of engineering teams that have swallowed all of the HR BS.
I'm also an autodidact and my respect for university-"""educated""" people is shrinking by the day.
Charles Hill
HR doesn't care about autodidacts. You're self motivated unlike all the others who need to be managed? Fuck off.
t. unemployed autodidact
Luke Foster
Any stories? I have a feeling somewhere that working with women is a fatal mistake but I don't have enough personal experience other than from what I have observed in certain companies.
Blake Johnson
I'm interested in hearing about this too. From my experience women in tech are a giant wreaking ball of cost, time and careers but my experience is limited.
Easton King
This is why Zig Forums's "just read books and put stuff on GitHub, bruh" approach is idiotic. You need a degree, preferably a Master's. Anyone telling you that you can advance in this industry with only a portfolio and a CodeCamp certification of achievement is parroting back the 21st century version of the "go to their office and give them a firm handshake" Boomer advice. I'm lucky enough to already have the advanced degrees that the Karens in HR like. My brother had to do an online degree to advance in his IT career at his company. Everyone there already knew him and knew he could do the job. He was immediately promoted when he got the degree. It was that one stupid fucking piece of paper that was holding him back.
Jonathan Young
I have always thought I was the exception as my annual revenue is roughly $200k a year, but as you say I think there is no chance for me to advance into senior management without a degree.
Regardless, I'd rather neck myself than compromise my principles to please some kike/roaste executive headhunter or management board, so maybe the way forward is to start my own product company/startup.
Dominic Cox
incredibly based user. I can just tell you are going to fucking make it. $200k you pretty much already have made it. I think I'll be stuck around $70k ish forever. Well my xrp stack is fat so maybe that might do something someday....
Out of curiosity, when did you get into the industry?
Xavier Thomas
We don’t hire anyone directly we have a vendor that brings folks on in Poland, no clue what they pay
Sebastian Nelson
I'm not in tech, I'm in the military. But women are shit workers/leaders everywhere so the story would be boring. Also I don't want to give too much information about who I am.
Basically, women are all incompetent until proven otherwise. I'm actually quitting the military because I can't stand working for another fucking female.
