Should it become a real Political/Economic and Military Bloc?
It would be V4 on Steroids+ We can always get Serbia and Greece on board.
Three Seas Initiative
>ANOTHER multicultural circlejerk union
BND went through the trouble of setting up that sting with the Austrians because the addition of Austria to such a bloc would immediately elevate it from meme status to a significant threat to globohomo
At least were white.
Imagine if we can get Russia and Greece to join.
Austria already is a member btw.13 countries are.
Thing is at the moment it's all a economic project.
12*
And Donnie Boy seems to love us...he gave us a few Billions.
>We can always get Serbia and Greece on board.
where's the invite
It would be the Four Seas initiative,with you
With Russia it would be the Seventeen Seas Initiative(How the fuck is Russia so big?)
Oh, I forgot this was an actual thing and not just a proposition. I guess I mean when Austria is more substantively political aligned with the likes of Hungary and Poland
a shame the coastline is trash
>Make Austria great again!!
I rather go to the Azov Sea than Palma de Mallorca desu
What would the common political goals be?
Because Bulgaria (and for example Austria) have a shitload of Russian cocksuckers. Not to mention Serbia and Greece.
many 3SI variations include greece,serbia, and even other balkan nations.
Also technically the "biggest seas" you're connecting are the black,nordic and medd, not the "adriatic".
Economic i guess.
>(How the fuck is Russia so big?)
It's called conquest
It's the Baltic,Adriatic and Black Sea.
From their own Bio.
the commonwealth of many nations with polish supremacy, I would support it
New "heart of Europe" and buffer between US and Russia ... dealing with both but controlled by neither, at least not fully. Neutral turf. And a way to economically pull Russia away from China again. Would also "survive" the collapse of Euro and EU.
>polish supremacy
Oh you! :D
>What would the common political goals be?
preventing a germano-russianic block from forming, that's what both USA and china want to prevent from happening to not have that competition
How about Romania and Bulgaria gets kicked out of EU instead? Maybe memeber states wont leave then. Everything was fine until those shithole nations joined. Europe stops at the polish and hungarian border.
Greece included ofc.
Would be kinda based, ngl. But why would Austria want to be stuck together with those backward shitholes instead of Western Europe?
Political,military,etc.
The idea is centuries old.At this point it becomes more feasible considering the EU will go to shit
Stfu 中国混蛋
They have more in Common with Eastern Europe than you think esp. in History
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No, fuck yourself, gypsy poorfag. I'd rather have muzzies overrun my country than "white" niggers.
Western Europe will take the full brunt of the EU collapse. France and Germany will likely burn and fracture ... plus anarchy and sandniggers turning city ghettos into micro caliphates. We'd likely be meant as a "diplomatic channel" between Russians and Eastern Europeans ... as we can deal with both sides without butthurt.
Finally a Austrian poster with IQ.Cheers.
>muh Romania and Bulgaria
We're literally 5% of the population of the EU. Retard bongs just use us as scapegoats because that's not racist.
I actually expect good business for me should this all become a reality. ;)
Google union of the Mediterranean member nations
and what would stop the west from conquering the east?
You having a army with brooms for one.
Plus we are Nato countries and we will lead Russia straight to your doorstep.
"not globohomo and not russia"
Why would globohomo Germany partner with anti-globohomo Russia
it's a serious thread, take your meme conspiracy theories away from here
Ok: why would the avowedly progressive Germany, who took the lead on inviting non-European economic migrants into Europe and hates nationalism, ally with the modern Russia which self-consciously styles itself as returning to Orthodox traditionalism
Money i guess...For Russia.
Thing is Germany is nothing without the EU...which can and will collapse...soon let's hope.
>Orthodox traditionalism
How does rampant corruption and degeneracy amount to "Orthodox traditionalism"?
Enjoy paying greek bills.
Just economical... hopefully
If you follow politics, the SPD is quite clsoe to Russia
Also Merkel also likes to approve Russian projects like nordstream 2
its still bigger then yours and the broom army is by far stronger, not mention germany population pool and draftebel population is bigger then the three seas intiative whole combined power.
Not to mention industrial output, technological superiority, logistical superiority. Fuel and resource output and storage.
You couldn't even send two soldiers anywhere in the world while Germany supply's battalions right now all around the globe. On there own.
Thats why I ask, Germany in its peacefully state outclasses and outmatches the eastern tryhards by far, god forbid we go full reich and rearm. So who you gota call? America? they would have to go thru Germany but by the time they can muster anything your all long dead, Russia? So you back in to east block orbit? and you do what they tell you or they let you drop dead?
I mean whats stooping west europe to ally them self with Russia and partion east Europe and draw new borders?
In now way a three seas Initiative could hold its own, militarily and or industrial against the west. Thats why i am asking, is it some slav suicide pact you try to create?
because russias geo poltical goals are closer to germanys to what americas are.
A starving circlejerk then?
Are you Dumb?
Poland alone has the Military capabilities to conquer Germany.
Plus all of us are Nato members and don't have sour relations with the USA,with Donnie Boy.
Thhhh. Thhhh. Three seas initiative? What is that, the cunts, cawks and cawksucka initiative or sumthin? Hnnngggg. FAWKIN GOTTEM THERE, CHIPPER!
>Slavic suicide pact
Russia alone can wipe out the west in days faggot you know that.
it's cool i guess, for maximum potential here's what could be done:
first of all, Ukraine should be dismantled and split by its neighbours
second of all, belarus should become one with Russia. they're already essentially a single country, borders are very much just for formality. look up the Union State
third point, Kaliningrad should become "independent" (russian puppet) to fix the border gore
Based Hungbro.
???
poland has no Abilitys to even move three miles east or west with its army.
and 99% of nato is European. so in your dream wolrd, where 50% of europe brakes away this means that 49% of Nato brakes away. West europe. spain, france, germany, italy..... the world 6 largest economys and military powers vs what? 3 slav country's on east trying to be tough?
You see saying poland can without even data backing up your claims is not argument.
I tell you how it is. Poland cant even provide fuel for his whole army alone.
things like this hardly matter when it comes to geopolitical interests, america topples dictatorships for oil and then says to her voters that it's because of oppression
Well, whos gonna pay all the denbts of this shithole union?
99% of Nato is useless.
Nato=America...if the US let's you go you are nothing but the afternoon snack for Russia and Co
threeseas would be supported by usa, israel and china, and perhaps uk, because they all do not want united europe to happen, and threeseas take this deal this because otherwise they're doomed to forever be cheap workforce for western europe
it's risky but it's fun
2.2. trillion Union so far.
no they cant as 750 million europeans are facing 150 million russians, both are nuclear armed and europ in its peace mode hs a standing army of 1,7 million combat ready troops, while russia can muster 300k. It would be suicide for russia to move west. especially with trump destroying nato and all the alliances. not mention the potential that Europe or at least the west is on good terms with Russia.
Ill get it you some american retard with a Romanian vpn/ your Stationd in Romania but the Russian scare is not working in Europe.
ok nice trolling,get your numbers right first.
Wont happen. The EU basically uses Romania for slave labour. Look at something like Germanies agricultural industry. It's almost exclusively nothing but importing Romanians who get paid almost nothing to pick fruit/veg all day.
Same shit happens in a lot of countries.
Romania is also the primary source of lumber for the EU. Romania is being deforested faster than somewhere like the Amazon rainforest.
EU wont kick these countries out because they exist to be exploited.
Mate.What 750 Europeans?
Most of the East won't lift a finger against Russia.They will either let them pass or help them.
They have a free corridor all the way to your Eastern Border.
Nobody is going to die for Germany or France against Russia,you stupid?
Without USA Europe doesn't have a single chance against us, even without nukes. It will be a surrender galore.
Nobody in the East will stand to Russia if they want to invade the West.
NOBODY.And that's a promise that is 100%
I agree,without the USA,Europe is 0
That's because our amy is the real army trained to wage wars, european armies are just cosplay with expendive toys.
I think we are involved somehow with our ports in Macedonia even though we are not part of the group. I remember the American ambassador saying something like "we are connecting Greece to the 3 seas initiative". As for it becoming political block, who knows? The country of Germany exists today because roads and railroads were built among the various Germanic states. Military, not so possible when NATO exists.
I have to disagree heavy especially that america is useless and rather a looser when it comes to warfare. Europe alone can take on Russia or america.
we do not even need NATO as europe has it own deference pact.
Its the other way around, america falls without Europe as 99% of manpower and firepower and industrial output comes from here, not mention the geopolitical position so close to Russia.
I get it your nationalism is forbidding you to say other wise as your blind but all the numbers all the odds are against you in a 1on1 with europ.
You would not even have the people to keep europ under controll.
Holy fuck. Is this peak vodka poisoning or what?
>Its the other way around, america falls without Europe as 99% of manpower and firepower and industrial output comes from here
>T.bruger seeting
No we dont.
You sound like a fucking redditor.
You can't even enforce the law in Arab migrant centers and you want to face Russia.Are you high?
Russia took a chunk out of Ukraine and all Europe did was send a strong worded letter.
The EU is a farce,Germany armies are a joke and French soldiers are the BIGGEST JOKE.
its americans on VPN´s shit posting.
I'm serious.
Nobody likes you on street level,you German and French twats.
Este o promisiune micule Klaus.Daca Rusia vrea sa te futa(si o sa vrea) nimeni nu o sa ii opreasca din Est.
Aufwiedersehn.
He's not wrong, what's the last meaningful military operation an EU army participated in that wasn't just supporting America? Russia has been developing and practicing using its post-Soviet military for 20 years
Yes.
Thats how Russia fought for centuries.
Allright, you have my attention. Definitely economical, not political bloc, even though political cooperation is necessary. You don't need another europarliament full of globohomo puppets. Next, as was stated here , this will be mandatory to be able to survive.
I can somehow compare it to split of Roman empire. That means, West will enjoy their barbarians (kebab golden horde and chimpouts), East will survive. Circle is whole again.
But! All this doesn't mean it would be easy. There will be much work to be done - first, remove all globohomo pawns from estabilishment. Poor Slovakia has literal Soros puppet as a president, shamefur dispray. Our politicians needs to get their shit together too, they resemble headless chicken now. Poland and Hungary are based, I say most ready from V4 states. As for Austria, Kanzler Kurz may have enough diplomatic skill to iniciate such project. Some hints can be found here and there even in MSM. Baltic states? Big unknown. They are highly addicted to EU money and I can only hope they'd be willing to do it. Croatia, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania - hell, why not? They all made significant progress and they have potential. And also they have history with Ottoman empie, which might come handy.
Russia? Only as a partner in business. They have bad habbit to devour allies, they can't help it. Trust them, but check them, never show your back. Be strong, so they can respect you. Then it might work.
Greece? They need to survive collapse of € first, then get back on their feet. And they definitely need support with border protection. If not direct member of Intermareum/Three Seas/V12++, then definitely an ally and respected neighbour.
>an idea that is to be buffer between russia and western yuros
>Imagine if we can get Russia and Greece to join.
explain
Imagine Germany faggot soldiers going against Soldiers that do this...pic related.