Nazis adopted the Aryan identity because they wanted to glorify the history of northern Europe, which was basically a disease-riddled shithole for most of human history.
They wanted to take all the credit behind Vedic India and the Persian empire as they had no powerful civilization of their own in ancient times. Mediterraneans had a much richer history compared to them and are more "Aryan" in comparison as the word Aryan literary means people of noble heritage.
Real Aryans (meds, Persians and high caste north Indians) are all olive skin people with darker hair and not inbred cumskins like NE people
>change my view The bulk of intellectual advancement came from middle Europe >Newton, Maxwell, Boltzmann, Hamilton, Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck, Darwin, Clausius, Gibbs, I could go on forever. You AND the Nazis are wrong. These central European / British Isles badasses possess the ultimate brains, leading to the ultimate societal progress (hint: most of their ancestors migrated to the US).
>Real Aryans (meds, Persians and high caste north Indians) are all olive skin people with darker hair and not inbred cumskins like NE people
Aryans were a small group of fair skinned, often red/blond haired people from the steppes. They produced ALL european peoples/persians/mongols/indians. They were run by a military elite and often very small numbers of Aryans conquered vast kingdoms and took many wives from these communities and over centuries blended into them. This happened in east asia and in india. Aryans even conquered Egypt (Hyksos) with an army of mostly people from the Levant/canaan
I am referring to ancient civilizations not medieval periods. The medieval period is the golden age of central/northern Europe and the fact that it took them soo much time to have a powerful identity proof that they are not as advanced
Caleb Perez
Alans (anglos) and Saxons (germans) were both Aryan people, Europeans are certainly more genetically related to the original aryan people because they migrated into areas without alrge populations and they spread disease that killed most of the middle eastern farmers that had been living in europe when they migrated in so they didnt race mix with the people there like they did in India/middle east/persia/mongolia/china
>Alans (anglos) and Saxons (germans) were both Aryan people The Aryans come from the steppes that range from the Danube Valley to the caspain sea north along the black sea, and have had multiple migrations from this location, the earliest going back to 5,000BC or earlier
But it was mostly the Indo-Iranian branch who were the most advanced. They even ruled ancient Mesopotamia despite having no population there
"While the Mitanni kings were supposedly Indo-Aryan, they used the language of the local people, which was at that time a non-Indo-European language, Hurrian. Their sphere of influence is shown in Hurrian place names, personal names and the spread through Syria and the Levant of a distinct pottery type."
Christian Gutierrez
Then why didn't your ancient civilizations create calculus, physics, and engineering? In the end, that's the only thing that matters in propelling a society forward. Ancient racial supremacy is attractive because it's like a fantasy, imagining some mystical strong ancient man who was so amazing. If he was truly amazing, he would have left something of value aside from his genetics.
Nathan Martin
Scythians who were an iranic group and basically the people the nazi definition of Aryan is based upon looked like this
Yeah humans have been dabbling in numbers for thousands of years, but the real technological applications were born out of central Europe with >Newton, Maxwell, Boltzmann, Hamilton, Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck, Darwin, Clausius, Gibbs, Schrodinger, Volta, Coulomb, Ampere, Tesla, and many others. If you're familiar with any physics, you'll know that these dudes basically built all of it and are therefore the fathers of modern technology.
Samuel King
Sure, there was lots of branches that had various levels of success. The Indo europeans in their natural form were an unstoppable military but never really developed high culture. The ones that developed high culture, usually did so because of their location along trade routes where movement of people/ideas/technology passed and converged allowing for sycretisization of ideas. Cerainly in the post bronze age world, the Persians (indo Iranians) were the most successful/powerful, but even among their elite they made a distinction between the ruling class of Aryans who originated among the steppes and the semites/arabs they ruled over in their massive multi cultural kingdom.
However arguably during the bronze age the Mittani/Hyksos/Hurrian/Hittite and Vedic people achieved great success even before the Indo Iranians. These were also small groups of chariot using warrior elite that descended from the steppe people who had conquered other kingdoms. Infact the original homeland is not 100% certain as it very well could be the original Aryan homeland may not be the steppes but could be NW Iran or eastern/central Anatolia and only later spread north. To grow in great number among the grasslands
You've been shitted on by someone prepared for this exact slide thread. Nice try though.
Thomas Ortiz
link something any of the national socialists wrote that said they cared about vedic india. This sounds like a pajeet fantasy but if you can find a source maybe you are right.
Jace Brooks
So what if central asia was originally white and it just became mong looking after the mongol expansion?
Alexander James
"Following the ideas of Gobineau and others, the Nazi theorist Alfred Rosenberg determined that these people, who, he claimed, were originally from Atlantis, were a dynamic warrior people who dwelt in northern climates on the North German Plain in prehistoric times, from which they migrated southeast by riding their chariots, eventually reaching Ukraine, Iran, and then India. They were supposed to be the ancestors of the ancient Germanic tribes, who shared their warrior values. Rosenberg claimed that Christianity was an alien Semitic slave-morality which was inappropriate for the warrior Aryan master race and he thus supported a melange of aspects of Hindu Vedic and Zoroastrian teachings (both of these religions having been organised by Aryans), along with pre-Christian European Odinistic paganism, which he also considered distinctively Aryan in character"
Rosenberg, Alfred Der Mythus des 20. Jahrhunderts, 1930 ("The Myth of the 20th Century")
Jaxon Young
They thought that Steppe Aryans moved into Iran and Northern India and started the Iranian and Vedic Civilizations
Lincoln Morales
why is rosenberg talking about himself in the third person?
yeah, there are many people that think this kind of thing. They think that early indians that wrote the holy books are blonde hair people that look like Germans that got submerged by immigration and race mixing. When they talk about "aryan" india they're not talking about the swarthoid pajeets that you see today.
Mason Nelson
In Nazi times this was based on 2 lines of evidence, coming from the field of linguistics and physical anthropology. Some languages of Persia, most of Northern India(together with Sanskrit which they're derived from) etc. come from the same root as majority of European languages, which prompted scholars back in 1700's to come up with the idea of indo-european language group(as a part of larger project of trying to tie every single language to ancient Hebrew, figures). Since then the idea has been expanded upon and nowadays we have methods of classification, dating and reconstruction of IE languages pretty well worked out. This prompted an idea of tying some kind of European people invading India at some point(as was passed in the Vedas). Physical anthropology actually started fairly dumb, where some Anglos realised that the ratio of nose width to face width differs for lower and higher caste Indians(in northern part of the subcontinent), then they've started expanding upon it and found out that they show facial traits that lie somewhere in between(but not in the middle) Southern Indian and European population, further prompting the previous argument.
Nowadays we know for sure that frequency of Y chromosome haplogroup R1a in northern India increases as you go up the castes, and obviously R1a is also a haplogroup that can be found in mostly Eastern and Northern Europeans(in this order). However in total their genetic material is remote from modern European populations, hinting that what had happened was that: >group of men with R1a chromosome appeared in N. India >that group of men expressed gigantic fertility >they've set up a hierarchy which placed their offspring on top of the social ladder
Tyler Barnes
I think Ben Klassen has the same belief.
Leo Thomas
What is this Finnish Volker? Is this the timeline when Finland conquered Russia?
Hunter Jackson
Now the academics have this nice talk about how "it wasn't an invasion it was peaceful exchange of blahblahblah" but that's ironically enough, incredibly racist. If it was conquest then oh well - they've hit in the right places and time and won, it wouldn't be the first and last time when nomadic people overpowered agrarian ones. If however, it was a peaceful migration, then these Aryans must have been so fucking SUPERIOR to the local "swarthy people"(as Vedas call them) that all women wanted them as well as everyone voluntarily allowed themselves to be labelled subhuman while they've taken over all the elite positions in the society. That's literally proclaiming people of Indo-European ancestry as a masterrace.
Samuel Wright
>Einstein Hahahahaha! An inbred kike rat who made ZERO contribution to our understanding of the natural world. His theory was plagiarized in it's entirety. I ignored the rest of your comment, Rabbi.
Eli Morgan
Well, let me redpill you.
Low IQ peoples invented things that were easy on their climate. Whites used those tools in harsher clumates and changed it, improved it and used to dominate the world. It was not possible to invent farming in our climate because crops failed too often.
Noah Diaz
>back in 1700's to come up with the idea of indo-european language group(as a part of larger project of trying to tie every single language to ancient Hebrew, figures)
> Iranic That's a linguistic designation. It's useless. Hell, the term Iran itself was made up to appease the Nazis.
David Wilson
that's a lie.
Easton Clark
Keep explaining. Do you have any good videos of this as well? Thank you for your explanation.
Nicholas Ross
Another confusion is that y dna only applies to a very tiny portion of genetic contribution, albeit some of the most crucial for competing male reproductive success. So most of the phenotype of the people you see is a mixture of various races from the other chromosomes.
Leo Smith
Indo european is thousands of years older than Hebrew.
Yeah, and The Yamnaya Genes are most similar to modern day Germanic and Celtic types so that is correct. Look at the Tocharians of western China who were direct descendants from them, they look like they belong in Denmark, Sweden, or Ireland not China.
Lucas Baker
Yes, the way it looks is that at some point that part of subcontinent experienced an outside population taking over elite positions in its society. In other words they've set up a situation where relatively few "R1a" men had massive amounts of children with local women(not unseen in polygamist societies) and thus they've left their Y-DNA(kind of like we'd leave a surname) while contributing relatively little to the genepool.
Luke Cooper
Go watch a channel on YT called history time and watch the series on the Normans.
Adrian Brown
OP here, I am not talking about the medieval period. I am talking about great ancient civilizations that changed the world in a very early timestamp where most other population around the world were still caving dwellers
Nathan Fisher
You’re leaving out the vacuum left after the western empire fell. In addition to; goths, longboards, vandals, the Rus, and francs. You’re reducing too much.
Levi Robinson
Well, in the case of India, a brief period of dominance will not last in the genepool because it would get diluted as the dravidians start fucking their women again. But, in the case of Iran, my theory is that the dominance of their geneset was able to maintain and dilute out the native populations. Yes, you have some swarthy looking Balochis and Arabs in the country, but at least north of Iran would have been breeding that geneset for centuries. Remember, the y dna isn't the only thing that gets passed down, the original mother of the PIE people would also have been spread which would have lighter features.
Cooper Ward
Aryans were the hook nosed lazy retards who micromanaged and crapped all over this region. The many peoples who were advanced civilizations and all that are now complete third world retards after getting KIKED by muslims. Some of them flew to other parts of the planet, like Europe.
