>40% of men have had zero sex partners in the last year (likely higher) >The vast majority of new relationships that do begin, are started online..and this is rapidly increasing >Men outnumber women 9 to 1 on Tinder >On female friendly dating apps like bumble, men outnumber women 5 to 1 >Women rate 80% of men as "below average" in looks. (i.e. below 5/10) >The top 1% of men get 16% of all the likes. The top 5% of men get 40% of all the likes. >The bottom 50% of men get only 4.3% of all the likes >If "likes" were dollars, this would be the 9th most unequal country in the world
Will get much worse over time as this creates a feedback loop. Men become less selective hoping to get a match. Women become even more selective knowing they can be. If you don't already have a social circle which you can use to meet girls, you are FUCKED as you have no choice but to use dating apps. Even if you manage to get a girl within your social circle, she will have all the power. She will always be one app installation away from having 100s of men at her feet.
This is not just a problem affecting the absolute bottom tier men. This is a problem that affects the majority of men. How do you see this playing out in the future?
Aren't those apps for booty calls basically? You wouldn't want to look for a serious partner on one.
Asher Gonzalez
This is a pill I didn't need right now
Levi Fisher
social circles have eroded in the west so most men are not able to meet a women through them. These apps are the main way new couples meet today and they are growing rapidly. This is the only option most men have to meet women.
Nathaniel Perez
have solace in the fact that the vast majority of men are feeling the effects of this. All that needs to be done is to help them put words to what they already know by sharing these statistics. Remember nearly HALF of all men get nothing from women on dating apps and these apps are the primary way men and women meet in the smartphone era.
Alexander Clark
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Angel Reed
For the majority yes, but due to how fucked it is to meet people anymore it also is the defacto way to meet a mate now too. From what I hear over half of relationships start online now. That being said, what do these studies define as a relationship?
Jonathan Kelly
Maybe it's time to change social dynamics? why does a man have to figure out everything and jump through so many hoops just to get laid? go into endless dinner dates with women who aren't interested in them just because they are a free meal? Could we just have women go ahead and hit on men rather than having them act like they were harassed the second a non attractive partner shows interest in them? How the fuck are men supposed to figure out if the female is willing to go beyond mere social interaction and into intimacy without a direct dialogue about it? Why is having a functional dick something to be ashamed of?
People can't handle rejection, but there has to be a new way to do things or the consequences will be a totally disfunctional society where kids are only born out of mistakes and into poor families.
What country ? Canada, usa ? Don't have time to watch it
Evan Sullivan
the solution is to fuck old bitches who are too stupid or technophobic to use tinder. take the milf pill.
Michael Watson
the steps to change are as follows:
1. these statistics need to be shared to all men. Even the men who are somewhat successful with women are having to shoot way below their league. Half of men on dating apps have direct experience with getting zero interaction from women on these apps. They need to be aware that it is not entirely their fault. the entire system is rigged against them.
2. Boomers who make up the political class need to die out. they will never understand the state of things in today's dating/marriage market. they are incapable of even addressing this issue.
once most men become awake to just how dire the situation is, it will shift the Overton window which will help create a dialogue
Grayson Martinez
The statistics are primarily from north america. There are a few studies that also took part in Europe and the results in Europe are no less dire than those in north america.
Henry Price
Why do you guys keep pring Tinder and exactly Tinder out of other dating services on the Internet if it's widely known that women there only for attention? You can't just grab qt by the hand on the street and ask for walk?
Kevin Smith
"just fuck grannies bro" isn't really a viable solution tbqh
Kevin Ross
Artificial womb/fuckbots. Even without these abandoning women seems logical, short of being a top 10%er
Gabriel Allen
fuck this I'm joining some book clubs and knitting groups. where else do women congregate?
Jose Parker
the statistics used in this video are from a wide variety of dating apps, not just tinder.
Cold approaching women is a boomer strategy which is not even remotely viable in today's cultural climate
Hunter Rogers
I thought Zig Forums hated degenerate pre marital intercourse and dating in general. Reject modernity. Embrace tradition.
its not necessarily about pre marital sex. It is about meeting a woman to begin with. Online is the premier way young people meet and it is only growing. These statistics reflect the outlook for men for even the marriage minded match sites.
Well, basically in the future most men will be angry, lonely, and sexually frustrated. This alone will be a huge problem.
There will be no more families, just old angry women who are childless. There will also be single mothers. The generation of children that are raised by these single mothers will be some of the worst people in history.
It is going to be very fucking interesting to see how this plays out.
There might be simps who marry these old whores in mass. Women who earn more than their husbands (increasingly common) will get raped in divorce. Old spinsters will try to warn young women to marry young and not whore around.
I really have no idea what will happen, but I am on the edge of my seat.
Andrew Stewart
>Old spinsters will try to warn young women to marry young and not whore around >Bitter women will try to guide their youngers into living better lives instead of tricking them into the same misery FREN I think you misunderstand the brain a woman operates with.
Good post. I pretty much have the same outlook. Although I am going to take a bit more of an active part in spreading the message to men about what type of system women have created for them. Most modern men have experience with complete uninterested from women first hand. They need to know it is not entirely their fault and to see just how stacked the system is against them.
Luis Smith
And what ends up happening is the top 15% of men end up with top 15% of women. Everyone else gets the leftovers and the giant shitshow.
The drastic wealth inequality between the top 1% and the 99% as well as the top 10% and remaining 90% is going to be translating into the relationship rates/marriages.
>Well, basically in the future most men will be angry, lonely, and sexually frustrated. This alone will be a huge problem. >There will be no more families, just old angry women who are childless. There will also be single mothers. The generation of children that are raised by these single mothers will be some of the worst people in history. More or less this. A society cannot maintain enormous wealth disaprities for too long before it starts to crumble and weaken from within. With respect to USA, the government needs to enact almost drastic policies in terms of taxation to basically take wealth from the 1% and force trickle it down to everyone else via increasing minimum wage, lower taxes, and etc... Otherwise "Pax Americana" is going to continue to rot from within.
As for the 1% and the 0.1%...they don't really have a choice. Where are they going to go to escape?! Europe?! Hahaha. If they want a good, stable future for their children and descendants, their best bet is to let go of some of their wealth in exchange for longer stability of the USA.
Or what...they want to risk siding with China? Lmao, China will gladly take the American rich elites, take whatever they can from them and then slowly take away their wealth, power, and influence.
>once most men become awake to just how dire the situation is, it will shift the Overton window which will help create a dialogue Create a dialogue?! After an entire generation thief of children and family? LOL their won't be any people left to have a dialogue.
Gavin James
You should do that. I just wonder what effect it will have.
Even if you tell every man about this there will still be many men that try anyways. There are too many simps.
Lincoln Kelly
I mean awareness will help for sure, but that won't change things directly just make people concerned about it. We really need to be able to express our interest in women without fear of being targeted as perverts just because we have sexual desires/instincts. Nowadays everything is a micro agression, being "a gentleman" is being sexist, and it all leads into men pretending to care about women so they can lure them into their beds and then dispose of them, while more honest beta males are relegated to the leftovers because they're ostracized the second they even attempt to show interest in someone out of their league.
Society needs to be more lenient with men just trying to have a physical relationship, most creatures enjoy being pet, most humans desire companny and affection, but being straightforward about it is received as innapropiate if the woman doesn't have interest in you, and there's no fucking straightforward way of being sure she is not going to accuse you of harassement the second you let her know you like her tits and ass, so you have to lie and pretend you want more than her tits and ass just so you can get close to her, and then get lucky enough that she is desperate enough to get laid with someone who is struggling to even spend time with women because they're not a good catch. So the only way this rejects get action is by hooking up with single moms who are also being rejected, or christmas cakes who never settled and are now afraid their biological clock has run it's time, and even then they're probably chatting with 5 other guys while dating the spazz who has never been with a 3d female and is just wasting his money on a very tedious date with no future.
If people could just be more honest from the begining, if there wasn't so much dancing around their real intentions, it would be lighter for both sides and stop wasting their time. And real couples could happen more easily instead of this stupid lottery draft system.
There is no incentive for modern city women to give up this lifestyle. They must be BEATEN into it. They get to work, travel and ride the top 20% of penuses in every online app i.e 80 20 rule because they don't mind sharing their sex partners, and chads will fuck well below their grade so women can fuck upwards exclusively. Commitment, loyalty, family only weighs the whores down
Isaac Cooper
yea... the dialogue will be pretty useless in the wasteland created after all this. Still, men need to know these facts and statistics on just how badly they were treated when women were given free reign.
>If people could just be more honest from the begining, if there wasn't so much dancing around their real intentions, it would be lighter for both sides and stop wasting their time. And real couples could happen more easily instead of this stupid lottery draft system. I think women need to lower their standards. If women just lower their standards and stop whoring around everything would be dandy.
What we need is an app that assigns people a number (1 to 10). And then you can only see and match other people with your same number. Oh, also we either ban every other app or we hack them and break them.
>penuses lel
John Ross
>viable in today's cultural climate Well roughly speaking there are only 3 options: 1) You'll fuck girl right here and right now if mutual affection occurs 2) You'll be in friendzone but still may get slice of pie if she gets frustrated and no one better around. This is where all your dating apps leads 3) She rejects you if you're somehow ugly by her opinion or she has great/ownership guy To achieve first option you need to waste about 5-60 minutes on the street of big city irl or countless days online. Seriously stop playing by manipulative women rules
