As many of you already know we learned last week that Visa blacklisted Gab and we are now unable to process credit and debit card transactions. We learned more information this week and I think it’s important that I share it as a warning for others.
It’s not just Gab that is blacklisted. It’s also my family.
In China there is something called the Social Credit System, which was developed by the Communist Chinese Party as a “national reputation system.” This system tracks the “trustworthiness” of individuals, businesses, and organizations. “Trustworthiness” here means total and complete submission to the Chinese Communist Party. If the Communist Party deems you to be untrustworthy, you are denied access to plane tickets, train tickets, opening and operating businesses, and more.
"As of June 2019, according to the National Development and Reform Commission of China, 26.82 million air tickets as well as 5.96 million high-speed rail tickets have been denied to people who were deemed “untrustworthy (失信)” (on a blacklist), and 4.37 million “untrustworthy” people have chosen to fulfill their duties required by the law."
To most Americans this sounds horrifying, and it is. I now know from first-hand experience because this social credit system exists in the United States. While it may not be sanctioned by the United States government, it most certainly has been deployed by US corporations who today have in many ways more power, data, and control over our lives than our government does. Many of these corporations also happen to be endorsing and raising money for communist organizations, revolutionaries, and the domestic terrorists burning down our cities.
We were told this week that not only is Gab blacklisted by Visa as a business, but my personal name, phone number, address, and more are all also blacklisted by Visa. If I wanted to leave Gab tomorrow (something that isn’t going to happen) and start a lemonade stand I wouldn’t be able to obtain merchant processing for it.
Simply because my name is Andrew Torba.
If my wife wants to start a business she won’t be able to obtain merchant processing because she lives at the same address as me and would be flagged by Visa.
Jacob Morris
This is obviously very concerning. We have done nothing wrong. Gab is and always has been a legally operated business. We sell hats, shirts, and a software subscription service that unlocks new features on Gab. My personal credit score is in the 800’s. I pay my bills. I have a wife and daughter to provide for, yet we are all being punished and defamed because someone at Visa has it out for me.
We were told that Visa has someone camping on our website watching our payment processing. As soon as we get a new processor up they find out who it is on their end and contact them. They tell the processor that Gab is flagged for “illegal activity” and if they do not stop processing payments for us they will be heavily fined.
When the processor inquires about this alleged “illegal activity,” Visa tells them that Gab has been flagged for “hate speech.” “Hate speech,” is of course not illegal in the United States of America and is protected by the First Amendment. As I have written, it’s not real and I refuse to acknowledge it as term. Visa doesn’t agree with me.
The reason I share all of this is that I hope it serves as a wakeup call and as a warning.
If they can do this to me, they can do it to you and they likely will.
Christians need to be especially concerned and aware of this. The Communist revolutionaries taking over the United States are coming for us all. It’s only a matter of time before the Bible is labeled as “hate speech” and churches start to experience what I am going through right now.
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:17 Andrew Torba
Matthew Rodriguez
Bump any proofs?
Elijah Smith
Wow, it's already happening this quickly, huh? Unbelievable.
Ayden Reed
The left wants to bring the Chinese social credit system to the USA, but they know they can't do it through the legal process yet. So as you said, it will be done by private businesses that have been taken over by the SJW's. They did this by taking over HR departments first, and then only hiring like minded NPCs. Once they got a critical mass in the company they began pushing their agenda.
Brandon Gonzalez
If Torba is a Christian, he lets cussing and all kinds of abuse and filth on his platform. He had a chance to do it right and failed. As far as VISA targeting people, that is End Times material. They will control what we can buy or sell.
Xavier Gonzalez
what is gab and why do i care
Andrew Nguyen
They're even trying in churches and throwing hissy fits when no one lets them in key leadership positions.
Colton Cooper
They did this last election cycle to certain people as well. They want you homeless.
Cooper Collins
In capitslism you can boycott.
I've boycotted all BLM companies, starting with Nike
Juan Cook
The sites don't matter as much, they are trying to control you by not letting you get or spend money. It is the biggest reason why they want to go paperless because they can just freeze everything you have and you'll be shit out of luck.
Remember, politicians, bankers, and corporate people get dragged into the street and shot. They all work against the common man.
Camden Walker
You should care because this kind of practice will infest every single aspect of your life in the not too distant future. If you do or say anything that the ruling oligarchy (whether it's in the form of governments, corporations, or public-private partnership hybrids), they will have the power to make it impossible for you to survive. Our institutions have already prepped the public to accept this when it arrives through psychological conditions, either through entertainment like Black Mirror or through policies on college campuses. There will be no Zig Forums in the future. There will be no free thought whatsoever. From there, it will be a short leap to branding someone like you as a thought criminal and exterminating you. Honestly, if you're not concerned about shit like this, there's something severely wrong with you.
Owen Nelson
They want you dead. But we have the guns. So homeless is second
>US corporations who today have in many ways more power, data, and control over our lives than our government does. There is a good chance that Facebook, Google, Amazon and others are owned by the government. Corporations owned by the government are then used to induce changes to society (like social justice) that the government would have trouble implementing themselves.
Jacob Gonzalez
Take money in bitcoin or some shit
Josiah Cooper
If you can't see that Torba is just a liberal trying to get Conservatives to spin their wheels in a psyop, I can't help you. Either that or he's a total retard who doesn't know how to run things and took an opportunity and blew it.
Jace Jones
what would you have had him do instead?
Brody Howard
Please, oh wise one, help me see. Make your case for Andrew Torba being what you just said he was. Have mercy on my stupidity and make me understand.
Nathan James
Sue them. This is illegal.
Caleb Garcia
Have you read Revelation? What he’s referring to is the Mark of the Beast. Only those who accept the mark will be allowed to participate in commerce.
Revelation 13:17 - “ And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
Luke Rivera
>Sue them You think any court in America would give this case a fair shake? Visa will just appeal it until they get their way.
Isaac Taylor
Can I just ask everyone.. what is the actual answer to the encroaching leftist corporatocracy that has been unfolding the last ten years? > google manipulating search results > youtube censoring videos, comments > twitter bans and censors conservatives > this VISA shit
>If you can't see that Torba is just a liberal trying to get Conservatives to spin their wheels in a psyop, I can't help you. At this rate, I don’t think you could even help yourself.
Jaxson Wilson
>what is the actual answer to the encroaching leftist corporatocracy that has been unfolding the last ten years? There is no nonviolent solution. We're stuffed.
Camden Rodriguez
Time to support GAB via crypto.
Jason Howard
just dont use technology and boycott mass produced goods. The whole globalist system would collapse if we all just quit buying things as a species(this would never happen). Also just limit time spent watching TV and browsing the web so you dont absorb subliminal corporate imagery
Ayden Flores
in america the answer is to vote republican in america like them or not if you dont vote the democrats will win and it will get worse republicans have a chance of making it better
Luis Bennett
see alex jones and richard spencer was a dry run, now its any normies
Hunter Thomas
I believe it. End times are here.
Asher Cooper
Make examples of the most egregious offenders, and pick them off one by one to put them back in line. This isn’t a battle that will be won overnight, but we need to pick companies that overplay their hand and extend their reach. NASCAR would be a good example of the last week. Let the numbers of lost revenue go public, and move on to the next target. We need to be selective and discerning over huge vulnerabilities and weaknesses. “Go woke, go broke” is a strategy that has been working in the past, and we just need to amplify that message now as “go woke” is openly calling for hatred and bigotry against whiteness.
i have been terrified about this since the riots - where people have been fired from their jobs for any criticism of riots or blm
Aaron Bailey
Just meme their name as a racial slur.
Ryan Torres
>if people ask him about customer service issues, he says to leave : obviously doesn't care if he has no one on his shitty platform
Angel Jackson
I have also stopped buying almost anything from major corporations and online now. There is no need to consume mass media, and if you really need to you can just pirate it easily. There are plenty of small businesses around to take care of all the essentials. The few industries that are essential where a cartel is in place such as for payment processors, will need to be dealt with in the law, either through legislation or in the courts. The first step would be to organize efforts to call congresspeople about it. You would be surprised how simple things like calling their offices can get issues on their radar that were never even being considered. We need to rally behind a law that is able to nullify this social control system in place.
Samuel Ramirez
This is a very astute point. In fact, I would argue that corporations since the inception of the concept have always served the role of shielding blame away from the state and the ruling oligarchy behind them. We can see this with how the British East India company received a royal charter from the royal family and how that allowed a private business to soak up blame for what they did abroad (both to foreign populations and more importantly their own underclass back home). The legal concept of corporate personhood just further exacerbated this problem by removing restrictions on corporate entities. Effectively, now corporations could exist forever rather than a specific period of time according to their charters and outside the influence of public opinion. They could own other corporations. They no longer were confined by the scope of having to served the public good (LOL). Most importantly, though, they provided a shield from legal liability where the corporation became responsible for the crimes they committed rather than those who ran it. Of course, governments, corporations and those above them (Black nobility/banking families, royal families, etc) are all intertwined but have the public fooled into thinking they have competing interests. Good luck convincing your average "leftist", though, that the governments they believe will reign in corporations are actually their co-conspirators.
Benjamin Hill
the final solution
Daniel Flores
He could do what Trumpchat.org does. Its a nice clean site that doesn't have rabbit trails or tangents and focuses on the issues. It doesn't have people who call women C words. It doesn't have LARP Soros racists. It has issues that are relevant to US ELECTIONS.
Nolan Gonzalez
Does FREE speech mean nothing to you? The individual that speaks the words is accountable morally and spiritually not an individual owner hosting a site that specifically hosts free speech. Free speech is the whole point of gab. It’s not even like he’s hosting child porn or anything illegal. You either believe in free speech and free will or you don't. Even God gave us free will, thought and speech.
Austin Moore
GAB is owned by a jew.
Liam James
Isn't China ironically against leftists fag shit and globohomo, though?
Seems like the American social credit system and the Chinese social credit system are inversely correlated
Logan White
You could try turning to Jesus instead of posting porn for one.
Blake Green
Right-wing Americans need to confront these evil corporate scumbags with armed protests. Otherwise it will continue.
