Religion creates unity. Atheism creates fragmentation. Christian states are weak, yet Jews/Muslims are strong

Religion creates unity. Atheism creates fragmentation. Christian states are weak, yet Jews/Muslims are strong.
Is this why the west is so fucked right now? Should there be a new movement to promote Christianity again?

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Imagine believing in a Biblical flat Earth ruled by the Yahwah; a magical Jew god, who using Jewish god-magic. Imagine believing in a (fictitious) rabbi son who inherited these magical Jew powers.

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>Christian weak
>jew/muslim strong

How are you measuring power in this context OP?

Sounds pretty awesome.

If we assume your premises, it would neccistate protestantism to be a form of atheism. Protestantism is not a form of atheism. Therefore your conclusion does not follow from the premises. I'll explain how. Its certainly true that religion creates unity. That does not mean disunity from or within religion is impossible. Its a typical fallacy called putting the cart in front of the horse.

>Religion creates unity.
then why is the Christian faith so divided? protestant vs catholic vs JW vs LDS vs evangelical vs ect ect

>Protestantism is not a form of atheism.
This premise is false; therefore your conclusion is false.

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There are more than 200,000 plus Christian churches (not buildings, religion types), sects, denominations and cults in the US as of 2011.

>Taleb

Taleb has never been wrong, you Protestant imbecile.

Muslims are bound by the forces of Purity and Purity's Shadow. The purifiers kill all that offends them, so the impure learn to be purifiers: they begin to kill as impure all who might betray them to the purifiers.

The second layer - where the impure learn to be purifiers - is Purity's Shadow. It rides behind the purifiers.

The people who must always hide something about themselves...

And how many of them are protestant?

Assuming that all atheists are protestants does not meccistate that all protestants are atheists. Maybe Taleb is right, but your interpretation is wrong. Cart in front of the horse.

The perfectly good hide the perfectly evil unwittingly, so that it is better to be among the company of the slightly evil. Be of the fallen sinners, not the holy purifiers.

Most.

The inverse, that all Protestants are atheists in some way, is also true. BTW, I can tell you're Protestant since only a Protestant would defend something as Unlindy as Protestantism.

christian catholic states are not weak. Chalcedonian catholic ideology is imperial and militaristic minded.

hence why spaniards, pre-1054 byzantines, austrians, holy league. resisted islam and crushed them. and led to empire building.

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Wow. This is wise. Who are you

>The inverse, that all Protestants are atheists in some way, is also true.
This is the crux of the disagreement then. Please justify this statement
>I can tell you're Protestant since only a Protestant
I dont protest against the catholic church, therefore i'm techncially not a protestant. I believe in a new universalism and I also heed Pauls warning against sectarianism.

If you are so strong, why would you crumble without oil gibs, military babysitting and hosts to leech in general?
Why take advice from third world Middle Eastern retards with psychosis?

Yes. Take the Catholic pill.

Atheism only brings fragmentation if it's not universally held.
Stamp out religion.

> Religion creates unity.

This is demonstrably false

It's demonstrably true, as it had been shown by contemporary sociology of religion. It's also proven by cultural evolution which selected for the most cooperative religions. However, religion does create some conflict between groups, but this only happens because the religious in group is so cooperative.
>Please justify this statement
Because Protestantism pretty much comes from atheism.

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>Because Protestantism pretty much comes from atheism.
Now you're just chasing your tail. Why is atheism intrinsic to protestantism? Protestants are neither naturalists nor do they deny the existence of God. In what way does the characteristic of atheism apply to them?

Kikes are literal cancer and any place with a high Muslim population is a cesspool

So the thirty years’ wars never happened, then? There’s no ongoing conflict in the Middle East between sunnis and shias right now? Also

>taking sociology seriously

(1) Protestantism opened the flood gates for naturalism and disbelief in God (even though this isn't what religion is about which you would know from reading Taleb)
(2) Religious belief isn't epistemic, meaning that just because you happen to believe in God doesn't mean you are religious. And Protestantism thus plays down the Lindy aspects of religion.
Just because you can point to a few violent conflicts doesn't mean religion leads to conflict. LMAO.
>If we take all the violent conflicts we know of in a given historical period, and assess the degree to which religious divisions were a factor, what would we find? Such studies are rare, but in the Encyclopedia of Wars, Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod attempted one such comprehensive analysis. They surveyed nearly 1,800 violent conflicts throughout history. They measured, based on historical records, whether or not religion was a factor, and if so, to what degree. They found that less than 10 percent involved religion at all.

>In a related “God and War” audit commissioned by the BBC, researchers again scrutinized 3,500 years of violent conflicts recorded in history, and rated the degree to which religion was a factor ... In the end, religion was a factor in 40 percent of all rated violent conflicts, but rarely as the key motivator of the conflict. Religion is an important player, but rarely the primary cause of wars and violent conflicts.

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>Protestantism opened the flood gates for naturalism and disbelief in God
Opening the flood gates for is not the same as being synonymous with. This brings us back to atheist as protestantism but not protestantism as atheism.
>just because you happen to believe in God doesn't mean you are religious.
Thats an interesting point. But atheism is defined as disbelief in God. Religion is actually a sociological term, not theological or philosophical. I'm sure you could find "non religious catholics." This again does not demonstrate protestantism as atheism.

>Just because you can point to a few violent conflicts doesn't mean religion leads to conflict.
I’m sure people will find other things to bicker over. That doesn’t change that what you’re following is a purity doctrine, and as a result of this, it’s fundamentally unstable, as there’s always someone out there more pure and more extreme than you. All these numbers show is the tempering power of secular values. If those fall away, you’ll return to all the sectarian conflicts that religion is mostly known for. Also, presenting numbers without context is a very good example of scientism

>Should there be a new movement to promote Christianity again?
Yes.
Combative christianity.
We are ruled by people who absolutely hate Christ.

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Christianity is the fundament of the western world, without christianity, the western world would fall down. Therefore we should promote and defend christianity.

It isn’t

The architecture and its view of art and beauty say otherwise. You might not like it but visual aesthetics and symbols do a lot for a culture to unite. Christianity has done that for the west. Why not build upon that?

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The numbers prove you wrong; it's mostly secular issues that cause conflict and war, not religion.
>scientism
Nothing wrong with valuing scientific knowledge. This is just an absurd strawman.
>Opening the flood gates for is not the same as being synonymous with.
Perhaps I didn't phrase it bluntly enough: contemporary atheism is a direct result of Protestantism.
>But atheism is defined as disbelief in God. Religion is actually a sociological term, not theological or philosophical.
Not really. Atheism is a broad sociological term as well, which very often includes apatheism (apathy to the existence of God, or religion in general). If you believe in God, but don't actually participate in the non epistemic parts of religion (like too many Protestants) you're not even religious.
>I'm sure you could find "non religious catholics."
You can still be a Catholic without believing in God. In fact, many Catholic theologians have said that being a Christian is the lifestyle and participation in rituals, much like what Taleb says.