This general is about the political and social implications of the transhumanism.
Six things that every person should understand about transhumanism:
1) Every single political and social structure is imperfect due to limitations of a human biology, thus suffering and conflict will always be present.
2) A human organism has been evolving in such a way that natural selection favored complex brain stractures. A human brain makes it so that we are naturally predetermined to create and utilise technology.
3) A human body is nothing more then a tool of your mind. You are using and maintaining it as you see fit. Transhumanism is just the next step of this process.
4) To improve yourself, your loved ones and your surroundings is a natural instinct. Transhumanism is just the next step.
5) You are always limited by your biological needs and abilities. You're perpetually stuck in confines of your own limited body.
6) Death is a consiquence of damage suffered by organism, either instant (trauma) or accumulated through processes of "natural" bodily metabolism (death from old age). It can be prevented\averted\posponed by implementing a sufficiently advanced technology.
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The idea of transhumanism is that you take a control of evolution by using technology and in the end you become a post-human being which is both in orogin and spirit "human", but but on a fundamental level is something beyond a normal homo sapiens.
Well my criticism of that the idea of that humanity (and all the things that make us human) is indeed tied to meatspace. Becoming transhuman, or post-human is the same as becoming non-human. Traditional ideas of morality, especially those with a humanist bend (seeing humans as exceptional in one way or another) almost certainly dies with humanity.
Matthew Hughes
humanity is unironically overrated
Ayden Butler
The problem is that transhumanism doesn't see post-humans as non humans. They are human beings, just not homo sapience.
Transsexuals are just a birth defect caused by exposure to EDC's
Remember when Alex Jones said they're making the frogs gay? He was close, the chemicals in every day plastic, like those plastic water bottles contain EDC's like BPA. They did a study on african bull frogs and exposed them to these chemicals and the frogs changed gender, got pregnant and pumped out 95% of their offspring as males which would be a problem for the continuation of any species.
right, and I'm saying that's a misconception. I'm not a luddite in any way, just want to be realistic about how technology and humanity will intersect. same
Colton Hughes
Ones somebody invests money into research and USA changes it's law to allow to create human-animal hybrids. If you have a lot of money you can make cat girls real.
>I'm not a luddite in any way I am not saying that you are... >just want to be realistic about how technology and humanity will intersect. Acknowledged. This kind of discussions will die really fast if they are only based on larping. Your answer is 4
natural selection has come to an end. the human mind runs on a stone age old operating system, as long as it is the basis for all thought, human civilisation will always be in war with itself, eventually destroying itself. to prevent this, a total genetic and societal upgrade is needed. race, religion, family and national sovereignty has to go
from your perspective, my vision, which is being implemented more and more every day, every year, is way, way worse than communism could have ever been
I think you're right, but I think the posthuman/transhuman/nonhuman distinction is irrelevant. Your objection is predicated on the idea that morality and ethics are in principal, not just in practice. There is no reason to believe that, contrary to the sole example provided to us by evolution, incremental advancement of sapience will eliminate our morality. In fact, a persistently replicated psychometric measure shows a high correlation between cognitive ability and empathy. So we have a compelling reason to expect the opposite result: that as we improve our cognitive abilities with technology we'll become more moral, not less.
Jordan Hughes
>*the idea that morality and ethics are uniquely human in principal, not just in practice
Lincoln Brown
>I think you're right, but I think the posthuman/transhuman/nonhuman distinction is irrelevant. I don't know why people feel the need to debate about definitions that cannot be objectively measured. It's pointless.
I beg to differ. Have you heard of Swami Rama? The man could stop his blood from flowing thorough thought alone. He had to practice breathing, alone in a cave, for thirty years to get to that point though.
Asher Morgan
>USA that's why Elon will make them on Mars
Alexander Myers
It would be incredibly foolish of us to dive headlong into transhumanism before having mastered being human. As yet we haven’t even scratched the surface of human potential.
Joshua Martin
And I'll add that increasing cognitive ability is likely to be one of the earliest inroads toward normalization of transhumanism. There has already been extensive research on the genes that lead to higher intelligence, and extensive, frequently suppressed, research on differing cognitive abilities between populations (i.e. racial differences). Eventually a realistic solution to inequality of outcomes for black and brown people is going to be available to genetically engineer them to be smarter. And it will happen sooner than you think. The scientists moving toward this possibility are already being railed for being eugenicists, which is only serving to shine a spotlight on their "problematic" research. The work will unironically be eugenic, but in a new flavor. Adding positive traits to the genepool through genetic engineering and embryo selection rather than removing negative traits by culling and sterilization.
Carson Lopez
If one can achieve some abnormal ability it doesn't mean that everyone are able to do the same. And you seem not to realize that biological limitations are far more that blood flow or breathing. I am talking about a need for a sleep and it's effects on everything in our society as an example.
>before having mastered being human. How can one master to be a human? >As yet we haven’t even scratched the surface of human potential. I am pretty sure we did... Why do you think otherwise? Based Elon
Technological self-improvement is literally what mastering being human looks like. That's been the whole story of humanity's ascension. Applying that principle to the organism itself is the inevitable logical continuation of that process. Mastering being human means destroying humanity by becoming something better.
Andrew Rivera
Funny that you should mention sleep, he could also manifest delta and theta brain waves at will, while fully conscious.
Essentially he had nearly perfect conscious control over his autonomic nervous system, and was able to instruct others in achieving similar abilities.
Before we augment ourselves with machines that are the product of our minds, we ought be damn sure they are the product of our optimal mind, because there will be no going back.
