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A disgusting waste of a human being He is a murderer, a terrorist who killed innocent people. I'm not attacking his character. I am attacking his actions, because man's actions speak louder than his words. He might be right, he might be wrong, it doesn't matter now because his ideas are stained with blood. Nobody in general public who has at least a little bit of a moral compass will accept his views.
But of course Ted fanatics will defend him, saying that his works are separate from his actions. They would defend him even if he was a pedophile, or tortured innocent people. They are fanatics and nothing more.
Also remember: Everyone is a technophobe until they or their loved ones catch a disease. They always practically beg modern medicine to save them.
Ted is failure of a man who injured and killed innocent people:
Nov. 15, 1979, he upped the ante and placed a bomb in the cargo hold of American Airlines Flight 444. Luckily he failed and the plain made an emergency landing. But on that flighti might have been your friends and family, let that sink in. June 10, 1980, a parcel was sent to the home of United Airlines president Percy Wood at his home in Lake Forest, Illinois. The bomb was rigged inside the book "Ice Brothers" by Sloan Wilson. He suffered from serious burns and cuts over much of his body once the bomb went off. "I've thought about it a lot but I still don't know why it happened," he said toThe Chicago Tribunein the aftermath. "I've never heard the guy's name. I never saw him before." Dec. 11, 1985 he achieved the first fatality in his terror spree, killing computer store owner Hugh Scrutton in California. A computer store owner, really Ted? Thomas J. Mosser, an executive at public relations and communicationsfirm Burson-Marsteller , died upon opening a package sent to his New Jersey home on Dec. 10, 1994. Just some random office clerk.
Transhumanism is the future Zig Forums. Every single political system, every single way of social stratification IS INHERENTLY FLAWED. Flawed because of our biological limitations. We are bound by our own generic code that limits the true potential of the human being.
To be one with the machine is the greatest of honors. To improve yourself and your surroundings is a natural instinct of a human being.
Do not fear technology, embrace it instead. youtu.be/ztzq05IzYds ................... Useful information and links:
How ironic that pic related was what introduced me to Ted.
But I still don't understand what's the "division of labor" supposed to mean. Ted never mentioned it in ISAIF, and his other books were nowhere near being released when Deus Ex came out.
Ted criticized anprim, but he was still closer to it than to ecofash. Ted was technically an anarchist as he mentioned in ISAIF (his own brand of anarchism, as he said).
Brandon Gutierrez
The ukronigger still has a bot going Ctrl+f
Ecofascism believes that a State needs to exist to limit technology. Linkola is a true ecofascist. Ted doesn't believe technology can be limitd by state actors, and he just wants to put the dominos moving and collapse the world technological system.
Henry Carter
And for the illiterate, here's the essay with visual material (tedpilled af channel too): youtu.be/to8_s7mFxQ8
Colton Adams
Kek. Only 10 minutes and already you're getting BTFOd by everyone in the thread.
I'd do the same, but honestly, I've dissected and debumked your ceinge pasta from every single angle, and I don't like repeating myself. I'm not programmed unlike you.
Ryan Perry
>Seething technophobic retards Ted will die in prison and his views will die and be forever forgotten with him. Technological progress is unstoppable!
The technophobes in this thread would so so easily destroy the technological progress of our ancestors if given the opportunity. They do not realize how good their lives are because of technology. They do not appreciate what they have. And that is why they deserve absolutely nothing.
For how long this idiots think we can stay on this rock we call "Earth"? Remember we are here only till the next big asteroid hits. How do this faggots think of stopping natural disasters that could cause an extension of our species?
Here is another thing that technophobes refused to acknowledge. Humanity evolved to use technology. human being has the most advanced brain in the animal kingdom because our survival strategy is to innovate. We are literally born to create technology and manipulate our surroundings with that said technology. Technology is not something evil or good, technology is a representation of a mankind's collective will.
Oh and don't get me started on other countries that could conquer them with technological superiority. China will burn you alive with their unimaginable engines of war.
The only way to move forward is to embrace the technological progress.
He hasn't read Ted, he hasn't read Land, he hasn't read shit. He really does come off as a dedicated troll, maybe even a Luddite who pretends to be a retarded technophile to mock our opposition.
Michael Thomas
If the machines are permitted to make all their own decisions we can't make any conjecture as to the results, because it is impossible to guess how such machines might behave. We only point out that the fate of the human race would be at the mercy of the machines. It might be argued that the human race would never be foolish enough to hand over all power to the machines. But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power. What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines' decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and as machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more and more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide.
Matthew Adams
Good video. Props to whomever has made it.
I'm still willing to bet the Ukrainian faggot won't watch even 5 minutes of it. All that catgirl porn has fried all his dopamine receptors and fucked up his nerve system.
Leo Thompson
sinple realy... when you really think about it... on the other hand it is possible that human control over the machines may be retained. In that case the average man may have control over certain private machines of his own, such as his car or his personal computer, but control over large systems of machines will be in the hands of a tiny elite-just as it is today, but with two differences. Due to improved techniques the elite will have greater control over the masses; and because human work will no longer be necessary the masses will be superfluous, a useless burden on the system. If the elite is ruthless they may simply decide to exterminate the mass of humanity. If they are humane they may use propaganda or other psychological or biological techniques to reduce the birth rate until the mass of humanity becomes extinct, leaving the world to the elite. Or, if the elite consist of soft-hearted liberals, they may decide to play the role of good shepherds to the rest of the human race. They will see to it that everyone's physical needs are satisfied, that all children are raised under psychologically hygienic conditions, that everyone has a wholesome hobby to keep him busy, and that anyone who may become dissatisfied undergoes "treatment" to cure his "problem." Of course, life will be so purposeless that people will have to be biologically or psychologically engineered either to remove their need for the power process or to make them "sublimate" their drive for power into some harmless hobby. These engineered human beings may be happy in such a society, but they most certainly will not be free. They will have been reduced to the status of domestic animals.
Nathaniel Johnson
Go get some sun and air, leave your computer. Judging from these posts you're as pale and fat as the Moon.
Whatever else may be the case, it is certain that technology is creating for human beings a new physical and social environment radically different from the spectrum of environments to which natural selection has adapted the human race physically and psychologically. If man is not adjusted to this new environment by being artificially re-engineered, then he will be adapted to it through a long and painful process of natural selection. The former is far more likely than the latter.
HEY NIGGER! SHUT THE FUCK UP TECHNOPHILE. GET BACK TO YOUR CAGE. WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE YOUR DOPAMINE PUMP.
>But I still don't understand what's the "division of labor" supposed to mean. Anons live on an island, an anons need necklaces. Some anons gather vines from the forest, other anons gather pearls. These anons -who exclusively work on gathering vines and pearls- give the vines and pearls (raw materials) to other anons in order for them to make string from the vines, and beads from the pearls. In the meantime, yet another group of anons exclusively make and fix tools for making little holes in the pearls and turning vines into string. And yet another small group of anons take the processed materials (pearls with holes in them and newly-made string) and combine these materials to make necklaces. Thus, the labor that goes into producing necklaces has been divided up by several small groups of anons, thus making production more efficient than if it was just ONE user doing the whole thing, gathering vines and pearls, making specific tools, turning the vies and pearls into string and beads and out of that making the necklaces. There it is: the division of labor. Yes, he is truly doing Ted's work for him....
Jackson Lee
>Seething technophobic retards Wow, that's a big projection, even for you.
>Ted will die in prison and his views will die and be forever forgotten with him. The ideas are not even his. There were always people who opposed the system in one way or another, and there'll always be, as than is a NATURAL reaction to the system. But of course, you hate everything natural, so it's no use speaking to you about that.
>Technological progress is unstoppable! Tell than to the ancient Romans whose great empire collapsed in the same way present civilization will and whose technology backwarded so much that the quality of their roads was only recently reached. You'd know that if there was room in your brain for anything other than technophile fantasies and catgirl porn.
Admit it. You hate yourself and the world around you and because of that you live in your utopist sci-fi world to cope, you escapist, hedonist subhuman incel.
Aiden Walker
You really expect an answer? Or even a positive answer? Kek
But at least you're putting him on the spotlight to show his true colors with his silence.
Ryan Reed
I'll read Land when I get the chance. It'll be good to put him on the spot in his own general (which gets way more traffic than /TKG/). It'll be a biggest distribution of Tedpills Zig Forums will witness in quite a while.
Nathan Hill
yeah I've seen people say that he is schizo that love Ted. Where did you got that knowledge btw?
Angel Jackson
There's a kid in my village who weights 150kg, is 15-16 years old, 170cm tall and spends whole days in an Internet café playing League of Legends. I imagine the Ukrainian to look like that.
Jason Edwards
This. Technology should always be a tool, never an end
Cooper Green
I see, but where has Ted mentioned that in any of his works?
Tyler Foster
>But at least you're putting him on the spotlight to show his true colors with his silence. Ssshhhhh....!
More seriously now, that is the difference between Tedfags and these retards. If someone told you that there is a book out there which analyzed Ted's works in depth and refuted them, you'd go read it. You just would. If anything, just to learn something and even correct false beliefs/knowledge. On the othr hand, it is clear that this faggot suspects that Ted eloquently refutes Kurzweil in ATRev, and for that very reason he just steers clear of Ted's work, lest his gay beliefs are made to change; lest his pseudo-religious beliefs are put on the spot in his own mind. Nowhere, ackshually.... Sorry user, just thought you didn't know what 'division of labor' meant...
Bro you know that modern technology is a unified system in which all parts are dependent on one another. You can't get rid of the "bad" parts of technology and retain only the "good" parts. Take modern medicine, for example. Progress in medical science depends on progress in chemistry, physics, biology, computer science and other fields. Advanced medical treatments require expensive, high-tech equipment that can be made available only by a technologically progressive, economically rich society. Clearly you can't have much progress in medicine without the whole technological system and everything that goes with it.