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The absolute state of Canada
Jonathan Ramirez
Julian Nelson
Navies around the world have described their junior sailors as "seamen" for decades if not centuries, with the Royal Canadian Navy using "ordinary seaman," "able seaman," "leading seaman" and "master seaman."
But those terms are being replaced in Canada as the navy -- which is short hundreds of sailors -- charts new waters to become more diverse and inclusive, according to Cmdr. Deborah-Lynn Gates, who is responsible for the navy's personnel policy.
"We appreciate tradition," Gates told The Canadian Press. "And we're not downplaying tradition absolutely at all. But it's truly a matter for us to show that we are progressive and that we are listening and we are really, truly representative of Canadian society."
The move is also aimed at making sure the navy's most junior members feel safe and proud of their ranks and jobs, Gates said, acknowledging the double entendre associated with the term "seaman."
Colton Kelly
"What this will do is ensure a safe environment so there is no double entendre," she said. "Definitely at the tactical level, we want to make sure our most junior members understand and feel safe when they are being called their rank, being called their name or being addressed."
Members of the navy as well as the public at large will be able to vote online on two alternatives starting Friday, with both variants substituting "sailor" in place of "seaman" in different ways.
One simply replaces "seaman" with "sailor" in the existing ranks. The other would do away with adjectives such as "able" and "leading" in favour of labels such as "sailor first class" and "sailor second class."
There will also be an option to suggest alternative terms.
The poll will be posted online and run until the end of July. The results will feed into senior commanders' decision on which term to use. The suggested change will ultimately need to be approved by cabinet.
The plan to drop "seaman" has already prompted backlash on social media, with some criticizing what they see as an overabundance of political correctness and others decrying a loss of tradition. Others, however, say the move is long overdue.
Gates suggested the use of "seaman" has been a potential barrier to recruitment for the navy, which has been pushing to address a shortage of 850 sailors. The navy has said it can manage the shortfall at the moment, but is worried about the longer-term implications.
"When they hear you'll start off as an ordinary seaman, it's maybe just a little thing, but it did not resonate," Gates said. "So we know it's not resonating with recruits and for us it's a matter of making sure we're being representative and that we are modern and forward-looking."
Thomas Rivera
Burgers just come nuke us please, I can't take it anymore
Juan Scott
don't care
still voting my Liberal MP
Ryder Diaz
>Voting open to the public
Pol.......
John Perry
SeaNiggers
Caleb Lopez
Checked and the absolute state pilled
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Levi Gutierrez
Checked
Master Sailor/Sailress
Leading Seaperson
Ordinary Waterprivate
Isaac Thomas
nope, you deserve this.
Nolan Gomez
>SeaThem
Noah Hill
How about "semen" instead. Also I must admit I didn't know you had a navy
Xavier Ross
Robert Thomas
ordinary faggot
able faggot
leading faggot
master faggot
Nathan Long
Just tweak the spelling to something perfectly appropriate:
>Semen
Hudson Gray
Royal Canadian Cumsies
Nolan Gomez
Dylan Bailey
I vote for seaweed
Ethan Campbell
>Seaman
For once political correctness makes something LESS gay
Ryder Moore
>"What this will do is ensure a safe environment so there is no double entendre," she said. "Definitely at the tactical level, we want to make sure our most junior members understand and feel safe when they are being called their rank, being called their name or being addressed."
Joseph Ramirez
Finally, we can stop making jokes about hot seamen
Owen Jackson
Semen.
Charles Rodriguez
are they going to replace 'woman' with a gender-neutral term
Jace Price
>tactical level
>feel safe, during war
Connor Foster
They already tried that with womyn, it didn't catch on
Henry Rivera
Too sexist
Isaac Williams
The Village People had a song about Young Men in the navy. They are faggots.
Matthew Peterson
>if my boss calls me a fag I'm gonna feel bad :(
>btw I'm here to kill people
Hudson Gomez
>"What this will do is ensure a safe environment so there is no double entendre," she said. "Definitely at the tactical level, we want to make sure our most junior members understand and feel safe when they are being called their rank, being called their name or being addressed."
lol. god forbid men (yes, 99% of the military are still men) want to joke around and haze/roast newbies - something that's been a part of militaries since inception. nothing will change, of course, this is just a really huge waste of time that people got paid for because they had nothing to do and wanted to look like they were doing something important. Imagine how many meetings took place over this, how many documents and materials are going to need to be edited now to redact the term, how many posters/videos/etc will have to be produced to "warn" people about saying the word. this is just parasites making work for themselves, leeching tax money because they have nothing to do
Dominic Morales
Its ok leaf, we'll annex you
Zachary Clark
>human
Huperson
Logan Torres
>Gates suggested the use of "seaman" has been a potential barrier to recruitment for the navy, which has been pushing to address a shortage of 850 sailors.
yea sure, that's why people aren't joining the canadian navy - because they don't like the word seaman. lol
Joseph Jones
WOAH WOAH WOAH SLOW DOWN SLOOOOWWW DOWN! Canada has a Navy?
Samuel Diaz
>short sailors
Reason being was that for 2 decades they defunded the military under liberal leaders who just grifted off NATO protection, so anybody who applied was told to fuck off, so everybody stopped applying.
Jack Cruz
call them cum
Cameron Foster
Lmao
Xavier Thomas
This is the right answer.
Colton Bennett
SailNiggers
ZOGbot swimmers
WaterLeaf
Aiden Brooks
ENGAGE THAT MISSILE BOAT, FIRST-CLASS INDIVIDUAL CREW MEMBER NUMBER FIVE THREE NINE NINE ZERO EIGHT FIVE!
ummm, I'm gonna need you to stop saying my gender-race-ability-orientation-neutral designation in that tone, captain, it's very commanding and intimidating, I'm not some slave!
Colton Flores
>SEA SWIMMING CREW MEMBER NAVY MEMBER #525236262! THERES A BOMBER ABOUT TO SHOOT A MISSILE AT US! SHOOT IT DOWN!
>BUT SIR-
>DON'T REFER TO ME AS THAT, SEA SWIMMING CREW MEMBER NAVY MEMBER #525236262! YOU ARE TO REFER TO ME AS XIR AT ALL TIMES!
>YES XI-
Elijah Foster
I gender neutraled all over her face?
Jayden Scott
At least our ships aren't burning up because some idiot doesn't know how to weld.
Christopher Richardson
Oh no both members of our navy must be furious
Mason Green
Se-xer
Jonathan Thompson
Pubes, they should be called pubes.
Daniel Wright
Kek. One day.
>All ranks should be equal.
>Hierarchy is fascist
Transphibian
Logan Richardson
This leaf gets it. Think of the ridiculous amount of man-hours (sorry, person-hours) that went into and will have to go into this change to make it branchwide. I would hazard to say it goes into AT LEAST several billion USD.
Blake Jenkins
Waterbears
Sea people
The wet leaves
Caleb Peterson
NPseas
Daniel Lee
>Hierachy is fascist
kek
>THIS IS THE SHIP LEADER, CAN YOU READ ME? I NEED SOMEONE TO GO DOWN THERE AND FIX THE ENGINES
>NO, THATS FASCIST! I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR YOU!
Jace Hughes
>Seait.
Justin Hill
Living in this fucking hellhole is one kick in the teeth after the next. We once had the 2nd largest army ON EARTH.
Kevin Reyes
what is he... undercover?
Nolan Morris
Sealads.
Brandon Scott
seaskipper
Kayden Sanchez
They should also get rid of the ranks Private and Major, because of Private Parts and Major Woody jokes.
Chase Perry
same title different spelling