get in here and help brainstorm how to make an internet to put ATT and Comcast out of business
hard mode: no satellites. it has to be something we can band together to do without massive amounts of nationstate resources
what if we make a cheap device that everyone carries with them or keeps in their house and it automatically connects to everyone else? like a smart phone but open source so anyone can build it.
or what if we get neighborhoods to balkanize by creating their own local networks, they hook up to each other via hardwire or wifi, then pass through base station nodes which are attached to each other across county and state lines via AM radio waves?
how isnt the internet decentralized?
Unironically this is what Skycoin is doing.
>Namecoin
That project didn't get much traction. It was literally intended to decentralize DNS.
I hope he means more decentralized.
do you pay an internet bill? then you have an overlord who can shut off or censor your internet at will
internet in america is in the hands of 3 companies. ATT, Comcast. and Verizon
it's called ipfs dumbass
Ever heard of tor faggot?
8G and our chubs as antennae
Meshnet technology already exists but companies like Cisco/Belkin keep it locked up because the tech would kill ISPs and the ability to control information on the internet.
its not free. we should make a free internet that costs nothing and is easily accessible
never heard of it, and i just looked it up, and thats not internet dumbass. thats filesharing. you would still need an internet connection from an ISP to access that, dumbass.
beechat.network looks quite promising but it is very early days. Are you satellite user or someone piggybacking on the idea? If you are them, I've added you on telegram bro
so you just plug your router/modem into TOR? faggot
DECENTRALIZED INTERNET. means no ISP. it means you jack into the system from anywhere, without need to pay for service
It exists and sucks shit because consumer devices don't have even a fraction of a percentage point of the processing power the regular internet runs on.
I'd imagine this can be accomplished by using a cell phone as a transmitter with an arduino board. I wouldn't know about the specifics though
helium.com
buy in you bitch
They have.
HAM radios are technically a decentralized internet in that they support packetized data uplink connections and doesn't require a service provider. Anyone can buy a repeater and give an area "coverage" so long as your transmitter can hit it.
cuz all it takes to displace a trillion dollar industry is a message board and a handful of zoomers. holy fuck this is the funniest shit i've seen in a long time.
Didn't they try and do that in the Silicon Valley show on HBO? How did they do it? Is it plausible?
The only inexpensive solution is a mesh net like
But if you just want an alternative to sillicon valley rather than replacing the internet infrastructure entirely, urbit seems promising.
This is essentially what op wants an the sooner it gets popular the faster we can drop the isp jew.
>Meshnet
thanks, i never heard of this but this is a perfect example of what i was thinking about.
no thats not me, its just a question thats been weighing on my mind for a long time. >beechat.network
this is pretty cool im reading about it now. not exactly efficient since it doesnt address nodes out of range of each other but it has very good ideas to get around that problem. still lacks real time capability
i was wondering the same thing but the problem with cell towers is they are all relayed back to the big ISP/wireless providers so you would basically be copying the ISP system and becoming an ISP yourself and doing it without the prize of profit, so doubtful that would work. unless you could figure out a way to cheaply construct cell towers or subsidize private tower owners/maintainers with donations maybe? like a wikipedia type system? basically make a not-for-profit ISP that relies entirely on donations?
DNS and ISP, dumb faggot. You have to be 18 to post here.
Helium is a cool concept but the node cost is absurd with no benefits in rural areas. Something like xBee is honestly more realistic for a decentralized network because of the low cost per node but the bandwidth would be shoddy
>we should make a free internet that costs nothing and is easily accessible
that would be fun and fine if it was with you and some friends, because there's trust. you need to come up with a way to circumvent all types of malicious activity, bandwidth abuse, etc
what exactly do we get, as Americans, by communicating and talking to other nations? other states? more is not better, diverse is not automatically good. The internet has caused the downfall of civilization and thats not hyperbole. If there were a decentralized internet, it would be best if it were regional-only, with messages passed via RF, lasers & balloons, or GPS-indexed dead drop USB keys. I'd take having a community internet over a global network any day. Thats how it used to be back in the days of dial-up BBS, and thats how it should collapse towards.
root DNS servers and the fact you need IP addresses owned by big corporations (technically leased)
yeah in that show they wrote code to work on a smartphone app, so while your phone is turned on its acting like a relay for data traffic. in real life this would never work because the megacorps that make the smartphones would never allow you to and neither would the wireless carriers that provide your cell service, since they would lose out on all their ISP subscriptions and become obsolete
why do you think they haven't?
how would you know if they did?
Jamal is in college as we speak studying up on the internet. Any day now America's trillion dollar investment in black people will start seeing returns. Any day now.
Eventually systemd tactics would manifest as a new protocol, standard, latedt feature, update, etc., etc..
False flags for x content that demands gov intervention
Its all so tiresome
The L0pht was working on an internet over ham radio back in the 90s but never did much with it. That is one route. People would need to set up a lot of repeaters and it would be low bandwidth.
All these anons talking ISP.
That's not the issue. The issue is that people use about 4 websites to access everything else.
We don't need that. We don't even need facebook. You could run your own soc media at home free of tracking, ads etc. The internet is centralized in use, not in infrastructure.
We need to move away from the third party server paradigm. Speeds and storage are good enough that we can move past it.
good point. keep the spitballs coming guys im taking notes, we can start a general thread and ill list all the pros and cons data in the OPs
im tired of comcast jewing me for $11 fee and $5.43 in state broadcasting fees and all this other garbage
So just a mesh network? They used one to organize the Egyptian revolution.
Honestly the solution for long range is to convince radio enthusiasts with licenses for higher power equipment to run nodes that connect towns OR have intermediary nodes that tunnel traffic through the internet in the meantime to connect the smaller meshes until the technology becomes ubiquitous. $70 for a 3KM range is fairly low cost considering the lack of ongoing costs for bandwidth, it would absolutely improve communication capabilities in developing nations. Charities can set up nodes that require minimal upkeep and are easily replaceable
