Why are you right wing?

This is gonna be a good one.

Elaborate, you sound somewhat well-reflected.

Haven't said anything about any of this. You assume.

>I think you're projecting a bit too much you utter spastic
Talking about projection lol
Where did I say anything about demographic replacement? I asked you to state your opinion.

At least you're honest

Based retard lolbert

Of course some faggot Scandinavian is a leftist because their country is majority white.

who gives a shit you what you think, fuckface? Either put your own ideas forward for a little reciprocal deconstruction of which I know you're just so fond, or piss off.

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>You assume.
It's a pretty safe assumption, my dude. Why don't you contribute something yourself instead of "summarize your entire worldview so I can make boring shitposts about it in bad faith. "

there's just not a lot of issues where the leftist position is based in truth. let's take minimum wages. they depress employment but when I say this, liberals say I don't care enough about employment. guns reduce crime, shouldn't even be a controversy. America has a better healthcare system with shorter waiting lists and more diagnostic equipment. I just never shy away from an argument, and when you argue with a liberal on any of these things they either dissolve into violent cognitive dissonance or start hurling ad homs.
there's evidence you can lesion a certain brain area and turn conservatives into liberals.

I've had a bad past, and I want everyone to have the right to free speech. I was hurt by people in the education system, so i want to improve said system.
What i found by looking at both in detail is horrifying. Forced hormone treatments, exile of anyone who disagrees with political beliefs, and an obsession with allocating people based on skin colour. Not on skill. Cali revoked the civil rights act, and I have to pay reperations even though an ancestor was a slave. Now I'm in collage, and have issues finding a non-mutilated girl that hasn't had sex with anyone yet. It's the schools, and the politicians that do this. Thanks for the discussion.

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left wing and anarchists are saying that im nazi if i dont support their stupid views. Well then...

>Hey right wingers
>I came from /lit and read a plethora of European literature
>How come you people are so stupid as to protect the intellectual, racial, and societal source of that literature huh?
Larp or retard, not sure which.

Are all of you on that board /lit/eral retards or what? You're devoid of brain function dude.

read OP post
now read this again
If you're still under the impression that you "haven't said anything about this" than you are, in fact, a mental midget.

As 2 posts by ID I may bite. What exactly for you constitutes a "right winger"? I am a National Socialist, and I do not consider myself as "right wing" but as "third position", that is, to me the whole left-right duality is retarded and just a construct put up for divide & conquer tactics by the powers that be, so as to avoid the formation of a state based on principles in fundamental accordance with both tradition and science. I don't consider classic "rightwing" ideas as appropriate means to improve Western civilization and socieaty at large, I am instead opposed to almost every single aspect of it in its current form, because in my worldview it has gone off the rails a long time ago.

it really comes down to this, I always told myself I was a leftist because all the decent intellectuals are left-wing, but after a while you find that is because EVERYTHING is 'left-wing' today, or rather everything mimics the revolutionary spirit so that it can be palatable and marketed the fastest growing demographics (young, urban people)

so first of all there is no 'right or left' wing anymore, and secondly deciding to back a left or right wing narrative means that you have completely fallen for the post-1945 mythos of the world where decisions are based on a religious-conservative to material-Bolshevik scale, and that scale or over-arcing super-narrative (essentially Overton window) is the length at which people can meaningfully engage in discussion

if you wonder why people are 'conservative' or have 'radical right-wing' views, especially if you consider yourself a leftist or progressive, it is most likely because you have developed myopia of political realities in your social circles and academic/professional life, which is fine and okay, but it is not even close to the realities of the ever-encroaching global-capital system (which you may or may not identify blandly as Capitalism)

It's in the OP; I wanna know what you think. However since I haven't really demonstrated that I'm engaging in good faith I'll elaborate on my personal views: I genuinely don't know, but I'm generally sympathetic to whatever's not on the menu of the overton window, just because I think public discourse quickly devolves into rhetoric rather than actual debate.

I've had lolbert sympathies because I generally don't like when people fuck with my shit but I also understand the necessity of taxation in certain circumstances. In short; I can't wrap my head around the issue and so I don't know.

>there's evidence you can lesion a certain brain area and turn conservatives into liberals.
This anecdote really isn't in your favor seeing as it implies conservatives are just brain damaged liberals. Of course I wouldn't assume this to be the case but ygm, it comes off the wrong way.

Also, what about the leftist position isn't based in truth? Or, more interestingly, what of it do you think IS based in truth?

Jumping from what seems to me one shark pit into another shark pit doesn't sound very smart.

I like this post, straight to the point. I might address you in detail in another reply.

I urge you to re-read this part in specific:
>I've never met a single self-proclaimed right winger that didn't lack a critical faculty
and then focus on
>but I'm not so stupid as to think you're all retarded
I've given you the possibility of holding right-wing viewpoints and having a critical faculty, I'm only saying all anecdotal evidence at my hands point to the contrary.

>What exactly for you constitutes a "right winger"?
Dunno, just anyone who identifies as one, really. Identity with your political views seems to be really hot rn, and I believe this is for a reason, but I can't pin the reason down as is why I'm asking for opinions.

I believe self-governance is important and that the division between the individual, local, state, and federal levels of governance is respected and reinforced. At my core I'm more Lib Right (every man a king and his home his castle) than anything else. As much as big N nationalism and fascism are concerned I find them difficult to sustain in the long run because of their reliance on constant reinforcement of statist values and an internal/external enemy. America fuck yeah get off my lawn republicanism has more staying power.

Does that make enough sense?
Please feel free to correct me or call me a faggot

Sorry *needs to be respected in the first sentence

>State your opinion and I'll call you a pseud or a retard

And you are qualified to do this how exactly? The fact you automatically assume you are more intelligent than us proves you are not

>also /lit/
Shouldn't you be busy sticking something up your arse ?

>I like this post, straight to the point. I might address you in detail in another reply.
It's hard to find a lefty who knows what they're talking about, and is willing to bridge the gap in a discussion. No need to reply, just glad a lefty listened.

Hegel was right, and because of this, civilization must be destroyed.

>Based retard lolbert
so this is the power of /lit/?
impressive...

Because I didn't grow up in a shelteted, homogeneous, Scandinavian country. I grew up around 'diversity' in all its Glory. Wouldn't expect someone like you to understand.

I changed machines so not sure if I'll have the same ID, I'm .

And okay, apologies for assuming you were only here to shitpost, I don't know if you've come to this board before but that's how these things usually go. I do think of myself as far right mainly because of , I think modern liberalism has completely lost it and we need a true alternative to it rather than rolling back to an earlier version as conservatives want to do. Leftists have alternatives to liberalism too, but they're all equally obsessed with tearing down those same institutions.

>And you are qualified to do this how exactly?
It's a joke user don't take it like a dick. That's what we do on /lit/

>
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What's your opinion on civic nationalism?

Norwegian cities are multicultural, but I feel as if there may be more of an agreement on what makes norwegian 'norms' even cross-culturally, if you get me. Would you be willing to rescind whatever views you currently hold given there was a sense of civic unity underpinning your society? Even if the society were 'diverse'?

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>damage conservative brain to make them liberal
>conservative is brain damaged liberal
pick one

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>>there's evidence you can lesion a certain brain area and turn conservatives into liberals.
>This anecdote really isn't in your favor
I didn't say anecdote. If you really want to get into it, there is a study demonstrating weakening in-group affinity when parts of the brain are disabled with magnets. There is also a study that Republicans have a higher IQ than democrats AFTER controlling for race.
>seeing as it implies conservatives are just brain damaged liberals
The other way around. "lesion a certain brain area and turn conservatives into liberals". Turned out it was magnets, whatever.
Averages aren't important to me, we are all allied with our share of retards.
My point is that liberal ideas don't survive open, uncensored debate. They are defeated by better ideas.
>Also, what about the leftist position isn't based in truth?
Why are you ignoring my examples?
>>let's take minimum wages. they depress employment but when I say this, liberals say I don't care enough about employment. guns reduce crime, shouldn't even be a controversy. America has a better healthcare system with shorter waiting lists and more diagnostic equipment.
Do you feel qualified to discuss those areas? Pick one, or give me a debate of your own choosing. I'm confident that any debate will allow me to demonstrate when the liberal position stops relying on facts and reason.

> me not so stoopid
Votes left

hahahaha fucking loser

/lit/ is a gay board full of retards desperately trying to prove how big brained they are to other retards. Go back

>ignored your examples because they know they cant refute them in a rational way
dont be suprised, liberals always hold multiple contradictory view points at the same time.

>Would you be willing to rescind whatever views you currently hold given there was a sense of civic unity underpinning your society? Even if the society were 'diverse'?
I don't think such a thing is possible, that's kind of my point. Here, there has to be continual propaganda, "diversity is our strength", etc to even maintain a thin facade of cordiality on the surface. I think it flies in the face of natural law, look at what happened immediately after the dissolution of a strong coercive central government in Yugoslavia, for example. I also highly doubtful your Norwegian diversity is anything like ours.

Ok, so to get to the identification problem, the goal posts have shifted very much in recent decades. People who would have been labelled "moderate conservatives" in let's say the 1980s are nowadays "far right wingers". In a way it is the left creating a strawman it is fighting. As they assume they have the prerogative of interpretation, they define "right winger" according to their belief system/ideology. So in their eyes I am a right-winger (an extreme one), even though I don't even identify as one. On the other hand what has once been deemed "far left" is now considered as "liberal democratic" or whatever term is used. There is just a constant shift in definitions, which makes everything so blurry as to give those defintions little intrinsic value, if they ever had one in the first place. I am pretty sure that we could agree on a surprisingly long list of points, if you should be an authentic "leftist", i. e.socialist. This should make you rethink the brands that are often used in discourse, and are abused by the mass media in a way so as to make those defintions practically useless, because they are constantly changed almost arbitrarily.

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