Do you believe that there really is a difference in IQ between the races?

2nd year psychology student here. My text books are so afraid to admit that there may be a difference in IQ between the different races and they even go as far as to discredit 'The Bell curve' (I haven't read that book myself so I can't say much about it). They explain that IQ has to do with the environment that the individual grew up in and the schooling they had access to, but personally I can see some flaws in that argument. What do you think? It seems to me like these college text books are just trying to be politically correct most of the time.

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Choose another major, or get out while you can.

You tell me.

Average IQ of Australian Aborigines:

The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European.

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Doesn't matter what I think or whether I think there are flaws in the argument.
Fact is: IQ is largely genetic.

>be heritable
>OMG IQ ISN'T GENETIC OF COURSE GOD GIVES IT FROM FATHER TO SON TO THE HOLY SPIRIT

It’s a tougher thing discuss in the age of political correctness, but IQ is determined by genetics. IQ is only an approximation of general intelligence and a shitty western-centric one at that.

>They explain that IQ has to do with the environment that the individual grew up in and the schooling they had access to
How do they explain the twin adoption studies then? Look I'm not a genetic determinist, of course environment plays a part, but the way the left is today it's like they think everything is environmental. They are essentially strict social constructionists. They are so fixated on the idea that outcome disparities between groups must be caused by some "ism" like racism/sexism/etc that they want to completely ignore genetic differences.

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imagine all the information he has stored

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They literally don't give any example of studies that prove that intelligence is genetic and not environmental. That's why I think it's bullshit and one-sided in the hopes to not offend anyone.

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Can someone give me good sources on race and iq?

This is a spiteful mutant. Spiteful mutants have a large genetic mutational load... hence the clearly visible facial non-symmetry. Since the brain takes up a huge percent of the entire human genome, the spiteful mutant's brain is also compromised by defects just as you see physically. So yes, defects could certainly cause lower IQ.

The *only* reason there is so much scrutiny over IQ testing is because niggers and other shitskins do so poorly.
This is the absolutely most basic reason. The same people will trust IQ tests that say women are smarter and forget every objection they ever had about blacks taking iq tests.
Furthermore Stephen Jay Gould criticized all types of human research that would go on to eventually show that blacks are just not the same as whites. He and his kike fanboys gussied it up with fancy terminology but the bottom line is that all that ink was spilled to hide the fact that blacks are generally stupider.

Oh and I'll add that they call these studies 'scientific racism' in the book lol

You must be very fresh, why does genetic component explain more of IQ as a kid becomes an adult, that doesn’t fit an environmental explanation. This question has been solved since Galton.

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Isn't there a study done on adopted blacks (by whites in nice areas) and the low IQ pattern still holds?

Read this:

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Something like infant nutrition most likely has an outsized role in outcomes for most demographics, but at what point does access to nutrition become endemic and start to dictate these discrepancies that we notice? If everything is environmentally dictated (which it’s obviously not %100) the environments are and have been different enough to have built in a wide enough gap between demographics. Too wide to ignore or fix in a short enough timespan.

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It’s definitely genetic and so must be racial to a certain extent.
>haven’t read the bell curve
You aren’t alone. It’s basically a worse version of mien kampf to progressives. They shun the very name and refuse to engage it on any level.
The simple fact of the matter is this: iq is just like any other hereditary trait, just like eye color or height. It isn’t necessarily linked to race, just like there are really tall Asians and really short whites and blacks, but the average “g” of a subgroup makes itself known. And because the trait is highly linked to the success of an individual and their culture’s growth and progress, it is highly controversial to even discuss how how certain groups have lower IQs than others.

Reddit spacing for a cleaner read. It’s very, very crucial to note that IQ is indeed linked to education and wealth. Yes, even rich blacks have lower iq’s than rich or average whites, but the ability to raise an IQ with a few generations of education and proper nutrition is astounding. The average iq of trailer trash and ghetto nigger are practically identical; neither have any place in society as a result of severe disability.

So what do we do with this information? Obviously, seek to raise the IQ of lagging groups. The data is clear: you can “catch up” a group quickly to the level of those around them. The IQ of Hispanics jumps an entire standard deviation on average when they immigrate to the first world. Within a few generations they assimilate and achieve and earn on the same level as whites. Same story with Asians, they do even better because they’re richer, on average.
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Yes, this isn't even controversial. Even most of my leftist/black friends acknowledge racial iq differences. I don't know what text books you got in school.

How about you stop being a bitch and cowering over people getting offended and bring it up in class. You'll find that most will have a candid discussion on it

just spend all your time debunking the IQ bs they peddle and then present it for the final exam. Change your degree after that, maybe your name also.

>Yes.
James Watson, Nobel prize winner and the foremost expert in genetics, says there is. wikipedia /wiki/James_Watson. While may scientists distance themselves from him, none have disproved any of his statements which are founded in logic. If there are physical differences due to genetics, why not intellectual?

Of course like there are differences in everything else. The people that push for that view dont want outcomes to be dependent of intrinsic things, they believe everything can be improved and fixed. Iq means that no matter what you do some will succeed others will fail. It puts an end to their egalitarian worldview. All the inequalities they get cushy jobs to fight are permanent and there is not much that can be done.

I'm of the opinion that genetics determine your potential, and your environment determines whether or not you live up to or waste that potential. A random black kid might be born with a capacity for a 95 IQ, but if they are raised by drug addicted and abusive parents, then with malnutrition and bad influences they might end up as an 80 IQ drug addict criminal adult. But if they were raised in a good environment by two law abiding hard working parents, then they can end up a 95 IQ hard working low level manager of some retail shop. Obviously I think we'd be better off if the drug addict low IQ parents were sterilized and couldn't have any kids.

Can confirm.

I think if you ever write a paper expressing your doubts (that I share, fyi) you'll lose any possibility of employment. Keep your mouth shut until this CRT poison gets filtered out of public consciousness if you value your livelihood in that field.

>2nd year psychology student
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

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It's so fucked to deny facts for political correctness. No wonder so many college students are so fucked in the head these days. It kills me to read about the stuff they say about trannies and gender.

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What you don’t do is:
Tell niggers it’s not their fault, the white man is oppressing them
Tell niggers that they are just as smart, it’s just that the white man has racist tests and racist standards
Put a token nigger in every company and every university (BAD. This will ruin your society)
Promote rap music, thug culture, more promiscuity, and a generally anti-intellectual culture
Even worse, make this culture “cool” and “hip” and promote it among whites, Asians, and Hispanics
If it wasn’t abundantly clear, your professor and most of his kind choose the latter option. If humankind is to ever advance as a species, it must promote IQ as the single most important human trait. It is literally the only thing aside from upright vertebrae that separates us from animals.

An IQ threshold for breeding, say 110, would maximize our potential and rid us of undesirables of all races. This is our only way forward.
t. Nonwhite/nonasian with an iq of 142.

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They can get a slight uptick in IQ during their formative years from being in a better environment, but their final score will not reach their different race parents, and end up closer to their racial group.

I know it seems easy, OP, and psych can be interesting, but you're going to have an easier time doing an undergrad BS in something else and then going for masters or PhD in pysch if youre still really into it.
Get a BS in some kind of engineering. It will prepare you for anything.

There clearly is a difference, the bullshit part is trying to act like there are zero higher IQ backs or every Asian is high.
plus realistically the main down fall of the black community is never taking responsibility fir anything.
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Psychanon here.
There is a shared and reciprocal role between genes and the environment in shaping a person's IQ. Take a random person with 100 +/- 15 IQ (1 standard deviation from the mean). Raise them with poor nutrition. Give them poor education. Tell them they will score poorly. Tell them that people "like them" (ie men, women, black, white, etc) score poorly. Make sure they are living in poverty. Make each day a struggle. I guarantee you, my friend, you'll see a decrease of 1 (15), 2 (30), maybe even 3 (45) standard deviations (IQ points). The person under all of these conditions will be, functionally, mentally retarded even if by genetic features alone they should be at an average 100.
Now consider the environment of the average black American. Then consider the environment in countries with

Certain races having higher IQs is something everyone knows but noone acknowledges because you can't have a functioning society if one race publicly makes it clear that they are superior to another in a way that can never be corrected for. In 2500, if the US is still around, racism will still be brought up as to why the African-Americans continuously underperform in all metrics.

Yes.
I've experienced it firsthand, and I know the feeling of having to "act dumb" in order to fit in around niggers.
My realization (and refusal) of this is what led me down the path I'm on now.
t. former wigger

You don't need a study to find that out lol

This. Get out. Not a good degree.

Insightful. Thank you user.