Social Credit

Seen a documentary on this , it was in effect since 2016 with some limitation (only certain geographic areas, mostly rural ones) . It started with good intentions (so that people would fix their homes and front yards, not to leave trash on the streets, not to pee or poo on the sidewalks) and turned into a Big Brother.

I doubt that, based on your limited understanding of America.
>it appears that China's social credit system rewards people for doing good things and punishes them for doing bad things.
Maybe you missed the part where protesting the government or partaking in any anti goverment action has negative effect on your ability to obtain employment or ascertain higher education, that gives the Chinese goverment power to make anything they want "against the government" and enforce compliance through this method of coersion

They're paid to shill it
How else do you think they raise it

This in reality is unfortunately close to the truth, I despise mega-global business for this exact reason, the megacorps don't care whos pockets are also getting lined as long as it also involves their own.

Go protest Jews or partake in any anti-Jewish action and see what happens

>cheating in online games
wait a second, dare I say based?

Bullshit.
You're a japanese sex slave and that's all you mountain gooks will ever be.

Freedom is certainly not the idea of enslaving yourself with vices like drugs, gambling etc.
But without the positive/negative reinforcement and the complete ban on those, you certainly don't have any freedom to choose not to act that way or the other.
Freedom is when you, yourself take action and choose to live virtuous life, without seeking benefit from the social system, some good boy points or anything else, or simply trying to escape the penalties from being in the wrong.
Everyone should take responsibility on their actions, that social credit system alienates the individuals from the idea of responsibility - meaning, they just do whatever the system dictates, without second thought if its good or bad, and what are the actual consequences on them and the society around them.

The libertarian idea of Freedom is certainly inverted and bad. But the real idea is the Christian idea, where God shows you the way of what is good and, you move towards that direction, following God. You are free to stray away, but there are consequences to that, the basic laws in society are build upon that natural understanding of law and order. Monitoring everything, including speech and trivial daily interactions is far from that idea of freedom tho.
The Chinese are trying to play God on Earth, and its nothing new, they are commies after all. In their world view, heaven on earth is possible. Retards.

I'll bite.

The social credit score is a formalised structure for something that already exists/is done in society.
It is a combination of two things which are already accepted and used everywhere in the western world: credit score and reputation. No one in the west bats an eye when someone gets rejected for a bad credit score or because they have a bad reputation (e.g. you don't go to a restaurant with shit reviews/reputation).
The chinese social credit score system is a unified formalised structure that represents an already existing formal and informal social mechanism and as such does not deserve the hate that it is receiving.
In fact, the Chinese social credit is an example of China taking the developmental lead in social evolution.

Should we have a social credit system in the US? This looks pretty good imo

There's a billion fucking people in china. They say you get promotions and stuff for being a good bugperson, but you can't promote everyone. If everyone is good and gets preferential treatment at the hospital isn't that just regular treatment?

Forgot to add. According to the documentary the credit score now even appears on chinese dating apps.

Considering the retardation going on in the states I'm not sure anymore that china is so bad. Sure it's a heavy handed approach but if the options are energy suicide, rainbow colored hair dyes and me being accused of racism and having to pay reparations due to my skin color then maybe China is the right choice after all

Money

Referring to the statement I made before
>Maybe you missed the part where protesting the government or partaking in any anti goverment action has negative effect on your ability to obtain employment or ascertain higher education, that gives the Chinese goverment power to make anything they want "against the government" and enforce compliance through this method of coercion
I don't think a social credit system is entirely unfeasible but who on earth would legitimately trust the communist Chinese government to oversee it?

I don't see how a country that finds voter ID controversial would implement something like this unless you tried to sneakily expand on the credit score system.

The only real positive lmao

Why don't you move to China then?

ng.l famalam but that pic looks pretty based tbqh

also social credit system has been debunked by reddit already

and yet, nobody in china uses it or knows about it.. maybe few people in the cities, but nobody even knows about this, yet Zig Forums talks over it over and over again to make a thing out of nothing

>How can anyone seriously defend China at all?
You get better social credit if you post pro-chinese posts online.
Doh.

Do you think big tech like twitter would do a better job?

How many times did you get your electricity shut off because you spoke bad about the Queen or because you cheated in video games too much this month?
Being digitalized and centralized in some government or semigovernment institution is only going to lead the way to technocracy and the idea of cheating the system, by simply accumulating good boy points.
Not to mention, you can trick it simply by reporting bad behavior on people for something small that court and police wont be provoked to check. And thus ruin people's life. Ideal for all the lefties and spiteful mutants to get back at "right wingers"

You already have it, they cancel you for tweet and fire you from your job.
And if you feel bad because someone is shaming you for your uncut front lawn now, imagine the sanctions you'd get in that system. Staying all day in your basement playing vidya is not an option too, thats being anti-social.

Protesting doesn't turn a score of 1300 into a score of 600.
If you're a decent person, then even if your credit score isn't the maximum possible, it would still be good.

If the only thing a person does is protest and doesn't do anything merit worthy at all on the side then I don't see the problem with a crap social score and and being labelled a "shitty rabble rouser" or some such.

it's the cost of freedom, you fucking bug-man

>and yet, nobody in china uses it or knows about it..
LOL.
youtube.com/watch?v=0cGB8dCDf3c

imagine China tricking the westerners to impose it, while they dont have it, much like the coronka hoax

I despise big tech and all of their bullshit censorship as well, the fact of it is, I wouldn't trust any corporation or government with a system like this, but the CCP is definitively on the bottom of the list

>thinking its going to be fair, and no one will blame the algorithm until your case is forgotten or deleted from the db completely

How would they even be able to tell us? The country is in a state-controlled media blackout LOL

>or because you cheated in video games too much this month?

Ngl fa.m but i really do wish the govt shut down the electricity of hackers on Fall Guys. they always just fly in the air and shit

Hyperbole. The social credit score is an aggregate figure. A single thing like cheating in online video games does not turn you into a villain with a pit bottom score unless you're literally walking human garbage who never does anything good and only ever cheats online.

The same reason why we deal with Saudi Arabia's crap even though they did 9/11, financed many islamic terror groups: MONEY

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I don’t know much about the system fully but it sounds like a pretty good concept, it promotes patriotism for your country and maybe your score gets lowered if you do degenerate actions

fuck chinks. they get what they deserve for being weak and dimwitted

we have the same shit here except our score is about how much of a good goy you are to the jewish banks. the social score determines everything that a credit score does here like being able to rent and get IDs except you don't need to purposefully take out loans for the credit score. Im also assuming they are better at running their social score because our credit score is determined by private companies that fuck up all the time and mis identify people
t. couldn't register with the DMV online because they used credit score for identification and they mixed me with the wrong person

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Fairness is a problem with every fallible system in the world. In law you have courts of appeal to try and manage this issue, when a computer system spazzes out on you you call tech support to help you sort it out. Why would the social credit score system be any different?

We are talking about China, a borderline autocratic country that had no problem murdering protestors over hong kong, you really would trust that government to oversee if you could obtain a good job? go to a good school? Not live in the ghetto? I certainly wouldn't