Whats the best martial arts for conditioning, self defence, and kill ability?
I've heard good things about WTF taekwondo and Thaing, specifically Bando and Lethwei.
Of course boxing and wrestling as a base too.
Martial arts thread
Jeet Kun Do
I know from experience shotokan for self defense is about as useful as ballet.
There may be some more applicalble arts for a real fight but in general its useless when up against armed or several opponents. Better get a gun
COOM FU
Martial arts aren't even real, it's just chink monkeys moves, it's all about Asians acting tough, you stupid cum guzzling nigger.
>shotokan
Any experience with kyokushin.
And yeah, weapons always first, but MA is still good as conditioning and just knowing your body and limits better.
Which aspect of it would you praise?
Taekwondo is for instilling discipline in kids. Krav Maga is for killing people
Boxing is the most useful I'd say
>Taekwondo is for instilling discipline in kids.
I'm not talking about McDojo's. Taekwondo was used by SK to kill Vietcong.
Why would you discount all your other limbs?
I just want to do karate for the moves, fuck wrestling and mma nigger faggots. I’ll jump kick your face off your head.
Once you have a base in boxing and wrestling hit up bjj and muay thai and you will be pretty formidable but best self defence knowledge i can give is be aware beware
Muay Thai and BBJ,
rest of them are dogshit meme "martial arts"
based.
Kicks and stuff probably aren't a good idea if you're not in a ring or on a mat. I would imagine trying to roundhouse kick someone in a bar fight isn't all that smart.
Bjj 100%. I only went for 2 years, but even that amount of baseline knowledge now means I can take almost all, untrained people my size on the ground. That being said, I've never used it in a proper fight, so idk how I'd deal with hands being thrown etc
Martial arts are fake.
Literally nothing beat sprint running + endurance against several people or even armed people
>McDojo
I fucking died thank you
Fucking based
Being able to deliver a proper knockout punch is the single best self defense skill outside carrying, and boxing teaches it faster and better than every other art.
Boxing conditions you for stamina and to stay on your feet even if you get rocked.
Taking it to the ground in a steet fight is a bad idea of you're outnumbered or on a stone/concrete road. If you lose control you're gonna get your head slapped on that hard ground.
Any martial art with legitimate sparring is going to be good. Bjj, judo, Sambo etc for grappling, Muay Thai, boxing, kickboxing, savate if you’re French etc.
If you only want strictly self defense I’d say go Judo or Sambo. The average person has zero idea how to fall correctly, you hit a throw and they’re concussed or dead. In a scenario with weapons the ability to control arms also will work miracles. A guy I wrestled with in High school in PA survived a knife attack with a two on one and beat the shit out of the guy after hitting a snap down.
You need:
>Good hard fast hands
>Some standup grappling
>Explosive endurance strength
You don't need:
>Kicks
>Groundfighting
>Max strength
HOW exactly you gain these skills doesn't matter, dirty boxing, muay thai, karate, tai chi, all can work. Lethwei is good if you can find a legit school, TKD can be good if trained correctly (emphasis on hand techniques and conditioning, Korean soldiers were feared in close combat by the Vietcong).
Source: Streetfighting experience, years of research
A lot of it depends on the teacher. Most martial arts get a bad rap because they have been taught by people who don't know how to fight. All fighting is one, we only have two arms and two legs. A person who knows how to use TKD well in fighting can beat a person who does not know how to use boxing in fighting.
Don't let the messenger destroy the message.
Taekwondo is only good for kicks not really realistic bjj is the way to go most fights end up on the floor senpai.
Buy a gun dumbass.
>taekwondo vestiment
BJJ, Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling
>MMA (BJJ+KB)
Thread is now debunked go home
I've watched professional top tier UFC's fighters breaking down different fights. Answers always the same, if it's more than one person or any type of weapon gtfo of there.
BOOBA
>self defense, kill ability
Gun-fu.
JAPANESE WOMEN DO NOT MAKE WHITE SONS OR DAUGHTERS.
Hand-to-hand is the basis of all combat
Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon
Sometimes you need to kill someone and all you have is your hands
I'm not saying it's not great to be able to deliver a great punch, preferably knockout, but there's conditioning to take into account and also the case where you don't land a knockout. I'd rather be able to also rely on elbows, knees, kicks, and even headbutt if it comes to that.
Krav Maga, Taekwondo, Karate... Fuck all of that bullshit. You just need two things: Muay Thai to knock people out and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu if the brawl goes to the floor, and all this comes in one simple martial art: MMA. That's it motherfuckers, train MMA and you'll feel you could fucking destroy anyone on the street in seconds. Multiple oponents too. No muslim will look at your eyes. No nigger will dare even. That's it. MMA. Learn it. Practice it. Make new friends at the gym. And use it as self defence. Good bye.
box, maybe bit of grapling. If you triy any other bullshit outside of gym floor you are get your bones broken.
my dad made me take bjj and muay thai for 3 years it has served me well
Yes you're the based German from the other thread.
Hardest part is finding a good legit school in London. I did old school TKD which focused a lot on conditioning and hands (we held boxing guard rather than down at our waist) when I lived in Asia as a teen, master was a SK Viet vet too. Trying to find Lethwei now.
Ah yes, that must be why the military only employs disarmed ninjas.
Niggers obviously carrying a good is go to but this is an add on ffs.
Muay Thai is the only martial art for real men
Just mix any real standup martial art with a ground fighting like bjj.... the biggest thing is to look for a school that teaches everything with actual resistance practice. If you only practice on someone letting you do the techniques you wont gain a lot. Thats why boxing, muay thai, and bjj have really good reputations.
When it comes to TKD and karate. Theres a lot of fluff out there but some good schools. Pick your school for the above criteria.
Train hard
Based, this is basically the same conclusion Bruce Lee came to. Not saying he's the definitive authority, but he had some good ideas and knew the limitations of his own traditional martial art.
I did Judo and wrestling in high school. Judo is better because it teaches you to fight with clothes on (more useful in a street fight) and also allows you to take opponents out of the fight quickly with a throw, in case you are fighting multiple.
Then learn Muay Thai, fren.