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Can a landlord charge for a gas safety check if it is mentioned in a tenancy agreement clause? It does not appear on a list of permitted fees that a landlord can charge under the tenant fees act 2019.

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Christmas lockdown is pretty likely right lads?

It's a landlords repsonsibility to have a gas safety check done but I never heard of one charging the tenant for it. I don't know if it is legal but that is some serious bullshit.

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Everything I have read so far is quite vague. It talks about providing gas certificates, ARRANGING gas safety checks but nowhere is it mentioned about who has to pay for it.
It doesn't appear on the list of permitted fees a landlord can charge nor does it explicity appear on the list of prohibited charges.
>From 1 June 2019, the only payments that landlords or letting agents can charge to tenants in relation to new contracts are:
>payments in respect of utilities, communication services, TV licence and Council Tax
So far Shelter and Citizens Advice is on my side. However his argument is
>durr its in the contract

If it specifies that the tenant is responsible for that cost in the tenancy agreement, and you signed it, then the landlord can send you the charge for that. Just because the landlord has to have it done, doesn't mean he can't charge it to you.

This was debunked a long time ago

Shelter, Citizens Advice and LegalBeagles forum seems to think Tenant Fees Act shits all over that as it is not mentioned in the list of fees a landlord can charge a tenant.
Since all of the gas appliances are his and a landlord is responsible for ensuring they are safe to use and has to provice a valid certificate at the start of the tenancy it seems illogical to be able to transfer that fee to the tenant.

>why do you wear the mask

And so will we.

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>gas appliances are his and a landlord is responsible for ensuring they are safe
Yes
>it seems illogical to be able to transfer that fee to the tenant
No

>The Tenant Fees Act bans most letting fees and caps tenancy deposits
The act was there to stop fees being charged to tenants before moving in, they were fees estate agents or private landlords were charging to tenants for no reason other than to profiteer. It doesn't cover fees for safety inspections or certificates, even if they are the responsibility of the landlord, and especially when it's stipulated in the tenancy agreement. Why didn't you refuse the agreement, or ask for that stipulation to be removed?

>assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/888756/Guidance_for_lettings_professionals_on_consumer_protection_law_0520_.pdf
>It may be a misleading action and an unfair term to try to make the tenant
responsible for repairs that it is the landlord’s duty to carry out. Forexample,
informing the tenant they are responsible for keeping the exterior or certain
installations in good repair or checking and testing gas and electrical
appliances when it is not the tenant’s legal responsibility to do so.69

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How about blm protests?

>Why didn't you refuse the agreement, or ask for that stipulation to be removed?
Because I'm not a lawyer, the tenant fees act wasn't a thing back then and because he's a petty cunt who won't repair anything. I was only made aware of how strange this is until it came up in conversation and I started reading about it and tried getting some advice.

Yes, repairs, maintenance, certifications etc are landlords responsibility, but it does not specify that costs for those can not be passed on to the tenant, and it specifically says that's what the landlord proposes to do in the tenancy agreement

On top of that he arranged it 6 weeks earlier to have boiler fixed at the same time, called a different engineer costs £75 instead of the usual £50 and he charged me by sending an e-mail saying
"I hope the boiler is working again. Please send your part of the Gas certificate, I THINK £72 as soon as you can."
What kind of cunt invoices someone with I THINK it's X amount?

He's a cunt, just move, or threaten to. It will be move of a pain in the ass for him to find a new tenant and probably just foot the bill himself. If not you move and get a better landlord anyway

To the lads who said to use a blanket to catch my stray cat, yeah I'm considering my options. Might pop into a shop tomorrow and look for a decent blanket because the throw away rags I have are not big enough

Well fuck him in the arse then. Until he replaces the fences that have been non-existant for over 3 years because of a storm, the leaky windows and 40 year old front door that's draftier than David Morgan-Hewitt flabby arse cheeks then he can get fucked.
Multiple organisations still don't think he's in the right, even after I quoted them the clause in the contract.

Worst case scenario I'll pay him in monthly fucking installments of £6 for every month I use. I'll be fucked If I pay for a full certificate if I'm moving in 1-2 months time.

Your landlord sounds like a right tight ass. Wtf is the point in rent if he actually does fuck all? Previous Landlords I've had are chill about these things and pay for gas/boiler checkups and appliances.

I'm waiting for an actual invoice from the gas engineer himself. The reason he did the gas safety check early and at the same time as the boiler repair is to safe a fucking callout charge, I guarantee it.
When the front door handle became lose and wouldn't open properly anymore he turned up in his 30 year old horse box monster, said it was probably the key, got a key cut at Timpsons, realised it didn't work, went back and got a refund for £5. Probably cost him £10 in diesel to get his piece of shit horse box there in the first place.
Tighter than a ducks arse. The locksmith that came said had he done his apprenticeships any later he wouldn't touch that door with a 10 foot pole. Needless to say the door is fucked again already.
He always insists on doing his own repairs, spending hours dicking about before finally throwing in the towell. At the same time always complains about having to do shit.

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