I feel like it’s the only thing i’d be remotely interested in. It’s either that or rope.
I’m 19 now and going to college next year so I basically have a year of doing shit at home to give me a head start.
What’s the math like? I heard you need to be autistic to actually manage to get a degree in it.
If I manage to get a degree after 4 years will I be able to find a career?
Also does it solely consist of incels or will I be able to get >qt nerd gf ?
Rope, nigger
Yes its worth it. Starting pay in USA for the worst software development job is $30,000 and it goes up to $90,000.
I don't want to
YES
but you should also take classes on udemy
Yes, but do side projects from Year 1 and get your Github portfolio going. If you graduate with no projects like I did and with no co-op experience you're basically at square one and have to teach yourself to be a good enough programmer to get an entry level job. So yes and no, if you enjoy coding and already do small projects and stuff in your spare time you will do great. If you are not a natural programmer, you will struggle but it is still a rewarding journey.
Also, don't go to an overpriced college. I interview people for a living, I don't give a shit where you went, just that you got the degree.
Interviewers only care if you know your stuff. We will hit you with Chapter 1 questions, we aren't trying to trick you. If you can easily answer those questions you are competent.
Yes it is worth. Work your way up until you become the hacker Zig Forums. Something we all should aspire to.
I don't have much experience at all but from what i've seen I feel like I could find it interesting.
I have until September to teach myself some stuff before I start college.
thx
It wasn't a suggestion.
Much higher than 90 if you study Austrian economics as a hobby...based question op.
I purposely failed Highschool (secondary school here) so i'm not going to get into an amazing college. It's still good enough though.
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Start small! Learning coding is baby steps.
I don't know if a degree is worth it user. I taught myself intensively for 4 months and managed to get a role as a junior full stack developer. 2 months in and they're saying my progress is so good they might change my contract up soon to mid level by Christmas. Feels pretty good.
This. Why not just get good at programming and bypass college? If your resume looks good you can skip college for computer science.
Software development is a degree for slightly functioning retards. The only degree that really matters is an ECE or CS degree. Get fucked faggot. Hitler did nothing wrong
cuz I want the college experience obviously lol.
That's why I asked if there will be foids.
Double major in Comp Sci and Math. It will show recruiters you can actually do algorithm shit and also you can get a masters in data science.
God tier combos seem to be compsci+math, engineering+math, and finance+math.
ok but what if i'm not great at math? Should I just forget it then?
How you taught urself ???
Then learn to burn coal. Math is the universal language. Without it, you’re better off being a simp faggot
I failed math at grade ten should I go?
You don't need it but it basically separates the boys from the men. If you're going to college anyway you might as well double major, most of the time you can do it within 120 credits
introduction with codecademy, but the trick is to look at the source code behind the exercises. That'll teach you how to construct modules which are just the building blocks for bigger apps. Then after that youtube and building your own small applications. Integrate API calls into apps and get used to handling data. The front end stuff is tedious and time consuming, it's in handling data that the true value lays. Traversy Media is my favourite teacher on youtube he makes everything easily understandable.
it's worth it if you don't want to work on your own - but don't go in expecting to learn anything.
the classes are all garbage - they only teach you old technology, the state of the art stuff is reserved for higher degrees, you might get a lick of it at the end of your bachelors.
mainly, you should do what you want in you free time, and start immediately.
do you want to make a game? go make one now. do you want to write bots for games? start writing them now. do you want to learn ai/ml? start reading and learning now.
in 2 years start spamming leetcode 8 hours a day and you'll land 375k/yr at google in 5 years.
if you're a lazy shit disregard all of that, just get ur degree and go work at jp morgan chase
>tfw I got an associates degree in software engineering but still have to work in a grocery store
Tbh though I'm not very motivated and haven't finished any of my own projects yet.
starting and finishing projects are the hardest part. fortunately, you can dump stuff on your resume even if it's not finished, so starting is the hardest part.
what have you started so far?
I am a software engineer with 10 years experience, graduated from the best CS school in country.
Don't do it seriously, currently yeah, pay is good and there's lots of jobs but the amount of people flocking to tech is huge, 10 years from now on situation will be different, but I have noticed there's already oversupply and the requirements for junior roles have drastically gone up in few years. 10 years ago all you had to do that was wrize simple fizz buzz, today you gotta know all kind of algos and data structures to land a job.
One thing which sucks in tech is ageism and 0 regulations, the amount of time you spend learning technologies and always keep sharping your CS knowledge for interviews is simply not worth the money when the company can throw you like used condom just like that when new tech stack or technology is introduced, things simply move too fast, even for an engineering profession. I'd rather the 20% pay cut and do a chill eletrical engineer job at power plant for example.
If you re autistic and attracted to engineering, pick another branch, like mechanical or electrical, yeah junior pay will be way less but its more future proof since they have regulations, you gotta have degree just to even apply to a job, its a massive gatekeeper, trust me you will be aware of this once you re 40 or 50 and have family.
Or even better medical school, my brother went there and I envy him now, he has incredible pay, works less hours than me a, protected by strong medical regulation which means doesnt have to worry about job status and can just focus on studying and reading.
there is no degree in sw dev
computer science != sw dev
computer science degree will get you very nice fundamentals of IT, but to work withing the field you are not required to have it
I would not suggest to do it just for the money, its moreso a skill, if you dont enjoy it, you wont be any good and u will prob hate ur life
but for sure try it out, u never know, and most likely if u dont enjoy it, u will quit early as most do
Thanks, user. That's basically what I was afraid of. I heard that things move forwards so fast that your degree can become obsolete very fast.
Sadly I have no interest in electrical or mechanical engineering at all and too low IQ to go to medical school.
Basically just began work on 3 websites and only have programmed silly beginner things like a Tetris clone. I do a lot of other creative work though (music and writing)
Hard to say what it'd be like in 4 years in terms of pay and availability. The whole "but there's a ton of demand!" thing is a total lie; they have to go through some pretty twisted measures to filter out candidates because most openings get hundreds of job applicants. For example this guy
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is a liar or works for a shit company. The questions they ask you are weird tricky puzzle shit. There are entire websites and books and communities *dedicated* to just getting through these interviews. And in four years I only imagine it'll be even worse.
I'm a software eng and I work for a F500, and its a total shit show. You have to really *really* LOVE the fuck out of the profession to get through it every day if you end up in a not so cushy job. Also just remember that software development is the easiest job in the world to outsource.
I'm not trying to discourage you majorly but just be aware of the situation going in
>Lots of competition to get into the industry
>Work will be nothing like you imagine it
>Pay can be OK to incredible
10 years in I don't make that much money (just touched ~6 figs), and I regret studying SE. I wish I had done something in medicine or really any other field like even a trade or something. Programming and software development can be great on its own when you are building your own things but its one of the worst fields to be a 'cog in the machine'. You are easily replaced, the work is often shit, they have you on a leash, etc.
>I heard that things move forwards so fast that your degree can become obsolete very fast.
Not necessarily true. When you learn the fundamentals of programming you can easily apply it to the new meme stuff. You'd be surprised at how much of the world still runs on decades old tech.