Why is steel immune to poison when poison type pokemon could have acid attacks that melt through steel beams or cause...

why is steel immune to poison when poison type pokemon could have acid attacks that melt through steel beams or cause them to rust?

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>Doesn't know about corrosion ability.

Justifying it in game it seems a lot of pokemon can't produce a poison toxic enough to damage steel. There's a single move called acid but it's probably a very weak acid that would explain its low base power.

shouldnt acid be super effective against normal types

not necessarily as normal types are incredibly varied
something like Porygon would be entirely immune to acid

acid-like moves should be SE to steel types, would give them a nice despite their lower base power

thanks bulbapedia

You can find a logical reason for nearly any type matchup to be advantageous.

Grass beats water, but too much water usually kills plants. Fire beats grass, but moist plants don't burn well at all. Water beats rock, but it takes a very long time for water to erode away rocks, while even relatively small rocks can have large impacts on rivers, causing them to meander. Lightning is effective against flying types, but if anything you'd expect them to be strongest against lightning since air doesn't conduct electricity well at all. And while ice is strong against rock, fire is weak against it, even though both represent rapid temperature changes which can gradually erode the stone (though the expansion of water turning into ice in rocks would make it more effective).

The point is that it's just supposed to make enough sense that you don't think too hard about it. It's just a rock-paper-scissors-mechanic, and the type names are just flavor.

While that sounds cool, there's unfortunately only two instances of moves that calculate super-effectiveness outside of their listed type, flying press and freeze dry. Game Freak is no longer interested in letting you do this kind of thing.

Fuck GameFreak for nerfing the Steel-type.
>People whine about it having so many resistances and realizing it's supposed to be a defensive typing and having only Rock and Ice-types to attack and so many other types resisting it
>Said resistances go away if it's paired with a second typing
I like the Fairy-type but Steel didn't need to be nerfed the way it did.

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>Help, Game Freak hates me

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if toxic attacks were supposed be effective enough to melt through body of a living being literraly made of cosmic steel like substance imagine what the fuck would happen if your fucking pidgey touced it man. That fucker would be left just some remains of bones. That what you want? Pokemon are generally fairly harmless docile creatures that hardly ever conflict between themselves in nature therefore their attacks are extremely weak compared to what actuall animals defense mechanism would provide.

Like theyr attacks and abilities to generate poison toxicity or elements is so unsubstential that it was legalised in theyr world to use them in battles with basically no restriction. You think that if anything any pokemon could do like imagine if charizards flames were actually as effective as our modern day flamethrower, no way would the government be chill with the usage of it in wild nature on silly birds and rats. Like his flames are so shitty non thing that they arent even guaranteed to ignite a shitty furry creature. these effects are mostly harmless imitations of actuall elements that are largely mythical and not natural.

>And while ice is strong against rock, fire is weak against it, even though both represent rapid temperature changes which can gradually erode the stone
You're thinking of Ground, which has a weakness to Ice but is Super Effective against Fire. Rock is strong against Ice, not the other way around.

they created ice darm so the type will stay trash

>moist plants
that's Water/Grass dual-typing

Steel is still the best defensive typing in the game and thanks to fairy being added is actually decent offensively these days with multiple high power moves like heavy slam

in fact steel/fairy is the single best possible type combo
The fact that steel can remain in the top 3 of best typings overall despite the nerfs proves they were necessary

dragon, steel and dark shouldn't even exist

Not the heccerino Steelixerino

Repeat after me
SLOW
DEFENSIVE
ICE
TYPE

seriously, make it resist ground and flying already

What in the fuck are you on? Steel is still arguably the best type in the game, with Fairy being a contender as well. Losing its Dark/Ghost resistances was still a favourable trade to be able to hard-counter Fairies, another heavy hitter in the meta.

and fairy

The big problem is that it's just much easier to run a Water mon with an Ice-type move. There needs to be more value in STAB Ice-type attacks.

Acknowledged, but my overall point still stands.

The point I'm making was that people missed the point of why it had so many resistances but why few types were weak against it.

one of the additional big issues is that water types tend to get good coverage while ice types barely get any coverage moves
the only type that gets more fucked when it comes to coverage moves than ice is electric

the amount of resistances it had was complete overkill, there was no reason why it should resist ghost attacks to begin with, and it's dark resist got swapped for a fairy resist, which is a damn good deal if you ask me

>there was no reason why it should resist ghost attacks to begin with
Spiritual forces vs. technology, in a sense. Inorganic beings have no comprehension of stuff like that. Same with fear (Dark).

Acids are used to REMOVE rust from metals you retard.

steel isn't technology though, plenty of technology based 'mons that are electric instead
steel is based on steel, nothing about iron has any connotation to stopping ghost attacks
and dark is more about underhanded tactics rather than just fear, so them bypassing the defenses of steel also makes sense

because acid is not a poison

Steel isn't natural, Iron is. Steel is man-made. If they called it the Iron-type, it could make more sense. Steel is an alloy, made of iron and carbon, a man-made material.

Because steel is stronger than poison

Why does dragon resist water when dragons can drown?

and half the steel types out there are made up out of iron
names aren't entirely accurate and you know it, plenty of ice pokemon are not made up out of ice but made up out of snow or just adapted heavily to cold situations
and lets not forget how many poison types are actually venomous

a healthy plant is hydrated, user. not dry.

>all of the Steel/Ghost and Psychic Pokemon completely fucked over by Steel losing its resistances to Ghost and Dark
Yeah, so strong. RIP Metagross, Jirachi, that giant shield/bell Pokemon, Solgaleo, Aegislash, etc.

steel/psychic has 4 weaknesses, 9 resistances and 1 immunity
steel/ghost has 4 weaknesses, 9 resistances and 3 immunities

how utterly horrifying, such a terrible typing, they're positively wishing they had ice/rock instead

and for sure steel becoming stronger offensively did not effect these highly defensive pokemon in any way, whoever used metagross or aegislash to actually hit things?

just so you know, aegislash and solgaleo were in no way nerfed by this change because they were created AFTER the change you god damn retard
in fact the change is the only reason why a ghost/steel type was created in the first place, and even then it turned out to be hilariously OP

Exactly, so isn't farfetched that some Steel-types would have a connection to technology like Magnezone or Klinklang and even Genesect. Not all Water-types are fish and not all insects are Bug-types (Trapinch).

Iron is generally considered strong against spirits in both a weapon and defense use. Dark is fine but Ghost actually shouldn't have been removed.

Dragon's supposed to beat the fire water grass triangle.

yes but even then the whole ghost technology thing is reaching even for pokemon
especially when poltergeists are known to wreck havoc on technology, in fact there's a pokemon based around this entire concept
so you have a connection that is fragile at best and only works for half the type, no reason what so ever to have it exist
and being a sneaky bastard who attacks weak spots works just as well on technology as on everything else

>Iron is generally considered strong against spirits in both a weapon and defense use
not really, it's considered strong against the fey, which is covered by fairy types
against the supernatural iron and steel are considered weak, requiring it to be substituted by silver

you wanna repeat that, buddy?

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>whoever used metagross or aegislash to actually hit things?
So their massive attack stats mean nothing?