60 FPS Standard on Sexbox

>4k/60
>1080/120

What's the problem?

So what's bad about this?
60fps locked always is great. Meanwhile PS5 will be okay with 30fps cinematic shit again.

>the architecture allows us to support up to 120fps
Does this actually mean anything or is it marketing gobbledygook? No shit THEORETICALLY it could support 120fps

you really expect game devs to use 1080p when ms and sony have been pushing 4k super hard since the xbox one x and ps4 pro? i mean i guess it could work but i don't see it happening

you clearly dont understand the numbers behind the specs of the new xbox

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Aaron Greenberg is known for just spouting random shit, games WILL be 30, but I agree, give us a simplified version of the PC options that gets us to 60 with lower graphics and we're good

by that they mean the hdmi 2.1 cable and the os itself that comes with the xbox supports it.it does not quarantee that developers will make their games target 120fps. maybe for indie games like hollow knight

I kind of feel bad for people making console hype threads considering the entire console industry is going to be pretty much dead within 2 years.

i don't understand jack of shit about these numbers but i do understand that they'll say whatever it takes for retards to buy their shiny new toys, and i know this because this has happened about two million times before

how many xbox one x games support 4k/60 again? less than 50, and it's mostly remasters, ports and indie games

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They have said this for the last two generations. People keep falling for it.

>We need 60fps back in consoles
>back in consoles
>BACK

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you do realize the xbox series x is more than twice as powerful as the xbox one x? im saying this as a pc gamer who never owned a console in his life and not planning to because i find them too restrictive (no modding, pay for online etc...).

>2020
>plays on 1080p

You're obsolete.

I don't know what the fuck point you think you're making since most console games ran at 60fps until like halfway through the PS2 cycle.

No shit, even PS3 and 360 have 60 fps standard output.

>Greenberg

>playing above 1080p

enjoy your diminishing returns bro

>60fps is standard
My PC is 120fps standard by its still great to see 60 being standard, might even be worth the money now as an alternate choice of a more expensive pc.

Why are you replying to a zoomer?

Like that fucking matters when the game renders at 30fps.

60fps has always been the standard. It's devs who go for 30fps. This is nothing new. Stop being retards.

>>you do realize the xbox series x is more than twice as powerful as the xbox one x
how does that matter? with every new generation they tout that they can do big numbers and they always end up falling short in practice because most devs use better hardware as an excuse to steeply crank up the polycount and texture quality and optimize less. 4k/120 is super demanding if you're going for photorealism like the vast majority of the industry and most devs just dont give enough shits to make it work

are there any 120Hz TVs? I mean most of them interpolate frames but are those "real" 120hz displays?

Love all that broadcasting that's above 1080p, bro. It's so prevalent all over the world!

you are fucking retarded if you think this means anything
it's just marketing talk

>4k/120
i never said AAA games are gonna play at 4k 120fps but 4k/60 is very likely for most games and (native)4k/30 is absolutely guaranteed. i can only imagine 4k/120 for very simple indie games like hollow knight and celeste

So the console makers give devs the tools and the power but the devs are stupid as af and squander it on shiny.

Nah, games ran at shit framerates for the whole 5th generation. You have to go back to the 4th gen for 60fps to be the default.

>standard output

Doesn't mean shit, they were saying similar shit for current gen.

Fact is, FPS is a design decision. Xbox cannot force developers to target any FPS. We had 60fps generations ago with some games because they designed them to be 60fps.

>It would be the standard the first year of the console when all games would be old ports and rehases
>Back to sub 30fps after a couple of years
Its the power of the cloud all over again, dont believe PR lies

>most console games ran at 60fps until like halfway through the PS2 cycle
that's is just absolutely false. PS1 rarely saw 60fps game and N64 had games running at 15fps. Don't even get me started on the Saturn.

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its a separate mode you literal brainlet. you can favor quality or favor performance, like in Monster Hunter but for all games.

Let me guess, the 2070 vs 5700 comparison is from Benchmark?

some TVs can do 1080p 120Hz but if you want 4K 120Hz you'll need a monitor and dual displayports

plenty of people still play on 1080p tv and monitors, 4k is a meme no matter how much they force it, next gen will all be about securing 60fps, I don't give a rat ass about the pixel count

>(((Greenberg)))

What the fuck does this even mean?
All consoles dashboards run at 60fps does that mean all games will too?
It's up to the developers like it always was and they will continue to prioritize visuals over framerate because that's what matters most

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>Xbox One X
>Gears of War 4 1080/60 or 4k/30
>Rise TR 1080/60 or 4k/30
>Shadow TR 1080/60 or 4k/30
>Hitman 2 1440/60 or 4k/30
>Forza Horizon 4 1080/60 or 4k/30
>Borderlands 3 1080/60 or 4k/30
Yes.

why? the eyes cant see over 12 fps per eye anyway.

xenogears had full 60fps battles and 30fps overworld, other devs were just LAZY

its from forza horizon 4 gameplay

youtube.com/watch?v=jahdQodYAg0

>i never said AAA games are gonna play at 4k 120fps
oh my bad, im a fuckhead. that said the initial post i made was talking about 120fps so you could see how that confused me

>4k/60 is very likely for most games and (native)4k/30 is absolutely guaranteed
yeah sure, i can believe that at least. werent they pushing 8k now tho

they said that for xbox one x and ps4 pro too

yeah i know that, but that doesn't change the fact they're pushing 4k hard because bigger numbers means its better right

i dont see most devs using 1080p simply because ms and sony want to push their hip new resolution

dont think they did, all they said was 1440p for ps4 pro and 4k for one x, the cpus didnt change that much

>werent they pushing 8k tho?

thats just the fanboys retardation. just because the cable that comes with the consoles is capable of outputting at an 8k res they automatically think the games are gonna be at 8k.

PC bros its not fair..... we were supposed to be the best.....

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How can they possibly enforce this?

60 fps has literally been the standard since the dawn of consoles (unless you're a europoor)

Whether the games actually spit out 60fps is another question. It used to be common until the 360/PS3 era, when devs started focusing more on graphics

this, the bitrate only support up to 900p for 60 fps

>Remember when people said that at the beginning of this gen?
I remember when they said it at the beginning of the gen before this gen.

Consoles are built of lies and purchased by retards.

refresh rate != framerate dumbfuck

>display output
Yeah what about it?
You dumb nigga.

conistent 60fps on consoles never ever.
60fps is PC exclusive

>PC preset
>looks worse, especially in the details
Wdtmbt?

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most games will run at 30fps.
they'll brutforce their shitty coded game through the potent hardware and save money on optimization development.

60 fps??? wtf that's amazing im totally buying the new xbox and I recommend everyone else to buy it too.

>Console faggots lie through their teeth just prior to a consoles release
Imagine my shock.

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>we need 60 fps back in consoles
>back in consoles
when did consoles have 60fps

>no textures on the concrete in the middle of the screen

cope look at the images ITT

What do you mean?

Used to be a time when people fans of games, now they're fans of companies. Companies that not only don't even know they exist, but don't give a shit about them.

the 80's, 90's and early 2000's

I'm literally playing THPS4 at 720p/60fps on my Original Xbox at this very second.

For a brief time consoles were actually pushing the boundaries, I mean the fact that a 20 year old console was capable of 720p/60fps, something the entire generation of console that came after struggled to do is hilarious.

I don't think that will happen, 4k media is still too low in quantity for masses to give a damn, at worst devs will have nioh-style graphical settings where you gan go 1080p fast or 4k normal or some other shit

based, fuck Sony for making 30fps the standard in console games for the longest time