Guys, how do we make grapplers viable in fighting games again? They're always underplayed

Satsuki's pretty good in melty blood

Yes, but she's convinced it's out of fatherly love and purely platonic.

FAT GRAPPLER TIDDIES

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How much would you pay to pound this cake?

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I would pay her double the amount to go fetch Filia for me

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Grapplers should be more nimble, stop giving them a glacial approach and zero-range grabs with 50% damage and some retarded vortex once they do get in.
If the grappler causes the entire cast to suddenly become keepaway characters, it's a bad grappler. That kind of min-max shit doesn't work in fighting games. It results in characters who win or lose almost purely on the matchup.
The Zangief-types with point blank grab reaches and slow walk speeds are boring as shit to fight and they'll always be relative shit tier or overwhelming top tier just because of some mechanic or other.

The grapplers that have fast approach methods and long-range/lunging grabs like Cerebella, those in DBFZ Satsuki in Melty, Kanji in P4A, are excellent grapplers because getting in/keepaway doesn't become the core focus; it's landing the grab once they are in range or once they have the opponent where they want them. Their goal should be positioning more complex than "slowly back them into a corner".

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I want more grapplers who have tools to close the distance or maybe a ability to dodge projectiles

Kanji is my favorite grappler. As hard as I waifu over Labrys in P4U, it's always bros before hoes

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>grapplers
For me, its King

you take that fucking back, big band and beo are fine editions

>I don't care if they're good fighters it's fucking inexcusable.

yeah i know what you said take it BACK

It's a shame because I love to play as them but it would have been by far better if it was a musclegirl and a loli riding a robot instead.

>wanting to get manhandled by beowulf.
BASED.

KI has the best grapplers of any fighting game.

#BringBackKI

kinda this but if your game is balanced properly then low tier won't mean shit anyway.
PM and USF4 both have low tier grapplers but the games have a flatter tierlist so it's fine.
youtu.be/0DVRyVwGhhA

I've always liked armour for helping them get in and making people respect you a little more. Playing hugo in sf3 is cancer when you're just a big ol' punching bad and you can't threaten space.

Just give them average walk speeds, high-priority normals, and let them combo into grabs. There's a reason I and everyone I know likes playing Daimon but fucking despise Gief and Pot.

>how do we make grapplers viable
HYPER ARMOUR DURING THE WALKING ANIMATION. What the fuck you gonna do now Zoning-fags?

Yeah, even "low tier" grapplers still steamroll people off one mistake or a good read, that's the nature of the beast
Like, FAB probably can't win against the other top players consistently enough to take a major but in any individual given match, it doesn't matter who you are or what the matchup is FAB's Pot is basically 50/50

Just give them normals that don't suck and short combos that "cash out" with grabs
The stereotypical old fashooned grappler that's only dangerous within 6 inches of you but then can delete 80% of your HP in one grab is basically impossible to balance

Nothing because paying to make love to your girlfriend is tasteless.

Fuck grapplers.

You don't want AC Potemkin or kof98 Daimon. Their gameplan is low iq as fuck, when they're top tier it's extremely boring and retarded.