Just finished 7, loved it, gonna hop on this now, what should I expect?
Just finished 7, loved it, gonna hop on this now, what should I expect?
An extremely easy game broken by the Junction system
Tedious cardgames
An incoherent plot
A good protagonist, but not as good as Cloud
Growing to hate or love Rinoa very quickly
A romantic dream
Squall is better written than Cloud. Cloud depends too much on his science fiction crutch to give his character depth, where as Squall feels like a real person with real insecurities as a result of a realistic, tragic childhood and character development that imitates the development of a genuine emotionally unstable teenager.
He is more realistic, but his catalyst for change is a girl the writers demand you like. Drags him down a bit for me.
But let's not go into it when OP hasn't even begun. The game's good, just extremely rough.
>A good protagonist,
until the love story ruins him
The junction system might frustrate you until you realize it's ridiculously broken. Don't fuck with triple triad until getting past the intro because it will piss you off but it's actually great. Focus on learning the mod abilities with your GF's asap. Story is a wild ride and there are some ridiculous turns music is 10/10
Pure kino
best ost in the series, great pre-rendered backgrounds and fmvs, retarded plot
Does the "remastered" version has upscaled background mods already?
GFs making them forget exactly what they need for the God awful twist to work makes Squall infinitely worse than Cloud.
>people think Cloud is a good protagonist
don't get me wrong Squall is annoying with his whatevers, but I can't think of any FF protag more boring than Cloud, zero personality + amnesia is terrible writing.
quistis is the best girl
name one FF that has good writing
>amnesia is terrible writing.
More the reason to hate FF8.
The GF twist isn't nearly as important as you're making it out to be. They could have simply hand-waved it with "we were all too young at the time to remember specifics and we all look different now because that's how growing up works".
It certainly doesn't "ruin" anything aside from being unnecessary.
Absolutely. Squall falling for Rinoa when a much better option was right at his side made no fucking sense.
Except it's not amnesia, it's more like a prolonged delusion. Cloud becomes much more likeable after the Lifestream.
I was indifferent towards rinoa because Quistis is best girl
More the reason to hate it. Such an unnecessary terrible twist and Squall falling for Rinoa because 'he's the type that gets attached to people' are terrible writing.
this is even worse
>I forgot who I was so I pretended to be Zack without realizing it
yes 8's plot is total shit but it at least explains it away with 'fate' while in 7 a bunch of random faggots 2 from the same hometown save the world because random eco terrorists are the strongest fighters ever
He never pretended to be Zack. He pretended to be a badass soldier.
>>I forgot who I was so I pretended to be Zack without realizing it
Are you pretending to be retarded?
He goes from generic dating sim choices/responses to slightly more upbeat generic dating sim choices/responses.
I've played ff7 a bunch and the only two characters who I can describe an actual personality for are Barret and Nanaki.
>I only like Barret and Nanaki so only they have an actual personality
Right.
...because of Zack. Retard.
And how is that pretending to be Zack you stupid fuck?
Boredom
>DUDE I STEAL STUFF AND EVERY THIRD WORD IS MATERIA LMAO
This is not a personality.
VIII is excellent, a much much better game than VII, don't let the trannys that have watched youtube pre-op trannys bash the game and mimic their trans opinions when those original trannys never even played the game
>DUDE WE GOTTA SAVE THE PLANET *% SHINRA AND EVERY THIRD WORD IS MARLENE
>DUDE I'M THE LAST OF MY KIND MY FATHER WAS A COWARD AND I ONLY HAVE THREE LINES IN THE GAME
See, I can do it too.
I think FFVIII gets a bad reputation. It is extremely easy to break the game and become essentially unbeatable, but it's a neat, innovative system.
how is 2+2=4 you dumb nigger
Triple Triad is based (and also completely optional)
It's definitely more interesting than chocobo breeding
Barret and Nanaki both had way more backstory than that, try again sweetie.
pretending to be a cool soldier =/= pretending to be someone
You stupid fuck.
A JRPG that peaks at the tutorial mission, and then continually gets worse. Only saving grace is the music.
Barret's "arc" with Dyne is purely inconsequential and Nanaki doesn't even have a backstory, Seto is explained as having died protecting the Canyon and after that Nanaki only speaks when it's a "everybody gets to say something" scene.
I'm going to voice my opinion, OP. I was a massive FF8fag ever since I was 9 years old until a few weeks ago (29 currently). I never touched anything related to FF7 out of loyalty to 8. I played FF7R recently because the gameplay seemed cool and loved it. Since there was a lot of story elements I couldn't understand, I decided to emulate the original FF7 and play through it. All I can say is: it's easy to see why FF7 is Squeenix's spoiled child. It has so much soul. From the story to the minigames to the music to the mechanics. FF8 is a good game, but FF7 has more soul. That is all.
Also I watched Crisis Core after and shed manly tears at the ending.
She steals materia because she wants to return her country to its former glory after it lost the war against Shinra. Sure sounds like a personality to me.
Imagine being this retarded. Barret has vastly more characterization than Tifa who only exists to be Cloud's waifu and to pander to the audience. She's basically the only one who speaks beyond the 'everybody' scenes. Hell, even fucking Vincent has more characterization than Cloud or Tifa and he barely exists in the game at all. You understand Vincent's motivation, Cloud just does things...because he does things.
Squall fell for Rinoa because she was the only one persistent enough to pursue him regardless of his trying to shove her away. Its established during the SeeD graduation and the assassination attempt that Quistis is overly emotional and takes those little quips too personally. When Squall tells her to fuck off, she fucks off.
Squall's specific hang up is with a fear of abandonment. He wants to believe that personal relationships are doomed to fail and with one of the primary themes of the game being "self-fulfilling destiny", he constantly puts himself in situations that lead to his social relationships never taking off the ground.
Rinoa was the first person in his life who forced a positive relationship onto him, and continued pursuing him regardless of his attempts to push her away. This shows him that it is possible to have a prolonged social relationship, and when he realizes that despite all this he's going to lose her anyway to sorceress shenanigans, it forces him to come to terms with the fact that he did care about her and that he does want social interaction and meaningful relationships, even if he's not fully capable of verbalizing it to anyone but a comatose body.
>I watched Crisis Core
>watched
Fucking faggot.
Why are Quistisfags so continually insecure about her "losing" a race she was never in the running for?
>I never touched anything related to FF7 out of loyalty to 8.
How many dicks did you suck to become such a colossal faggot?
That's her motivation, this guy's arguing personality while bringing motivations so he's an idiot.
All the characters have a personality, even if not much of one.
>Also I watched Crisis Core after and shed manly tears at the ending.
>not cringing at Zack going full shonen hero and fighting 5 gorillion soldiers
Fuck Junctioning, Fuck the orphanage, fuck Seifer, fuck the whle cast but Zell and Quistis.
What else was he supposed to do? He was going to get hounded down and killed eventually anyways so at least he went down in a blaze of glory while still managing to protect and pass over the buster sword to Cloud..
Yes, it's terrible and boring.
>tl;de he fell for her because she kept trying like an annoying retard
Noice
Took Zell and Quistis with me everywhere
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